NFL getting political?

[Trogdor]

^^^

Complain to Scheides if you don't agree with my actions, but I can already tell you exactly how that'll go. This is the politics section, not the religious section, let's leave it that way.

True, but someone is trying to use religion as a means to justify a political argument. They opened the door to counter arguments involving religion.

[Kracka]

He used his religious beliefs to back up his personal views and opinions which everyone is entitled, and entitled to do so without being mocked.

We had a lot of butthurt members and even threats of violence the last time this section was open, we will not let it get anywhere even close to that again which is exactly why it's moderated so closely.

[Trogdor]

You might have seen a couple of these cars running around town. This is Richard talking about the whole "Vote No" cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=56CVWyhSJRk#!

[tpunx99GSX]

is that your evo with the vote no on the interview?

[Trogdor]

No, thats Richards

[311evo]

^^^

Complain to Scheides if you don't agree with my actions, but I can already tell you exactly how that'll go. This is the politics section, not the religious section, let's leave it that way.

Speaking of separating church and state.. I see this as less of opinion driven issue and more of a human rights movement. Using Religion as a reason to vote yes is a joke unless you never had premarital sex or have looked at porn, etc. If we followed everything that the Bible says "should be done such and such way" this world would be flipped upside down from what it is today. Well hey at least everyone in the nation has the same religion so we can base our political policies off of OHHHHH WAIT.

I'm voting no, mainly because I believe people have the right to love/marry/spend THEIR LIFE with who THEY want. It's not like if gay marriage were to be legal everyone would just start craving dick constantly. Doesn't effect me negatively whatsoever, helps make people happy, fuck it. But heh we had to fight for colored people to have equality, women the right to vote, etc etc, and now gay people being able to do something that any straight person on the planet can do.

[311evo]

And considering the giant heading on this section says "FACTS ONLY" anyone who brings up religion as the sole means to change something politically should expect ridicule. Sure, you can believe it's fact. But it's not, can't be proven by any means, and not everyone has to buy into it.

[Trogdor]

The bible says many things that are now seen as antiquated, and would be considered oppressive, or misogynistic. So, if you're going to use "the bible says so" as justification for an argument, you'd better be prepared to put your money where your mouth is be willing to accept all of other things that would come along with it.

Furthermore, that whole "shall not lye with another man" thing was actually referring to a practice known as Pederast. The social acceptance of this changed several times through out history. At some points it was normal and accepted rite of passage, at other times it was viewed as hazing or the modern day equivalents to rape. Hence why it was not condoned by the bible.

Finally, in order to justify Christianity as a argument for this law you would need to be able to argue that Christianity is the one true correct religion. I believe in God. Key word believe, not know. I know gravity exists. I know this because I can pick up anything on my desk and drop it. I believe in a higher power, but can not prove it.


And considering the giant heading on this section says "FACTS ONLY" anyone who brings up religion as the sole means to change something politically should expect ridicule. Sure, you can believe it's fact. But it's not, can't be proven by any means, and not everyone has to buy into it.

This is more less the point I was trying to make.

[goodhart]

All I have is my phone, so ill keep it short. I agree with Jake.

Also- the Chris Kluwe radio ads made me LOL

[Trogdor]

Here are some random other things that the bible says we can and can't do. Yet no one seems to have a problem with them. Well, cept maybe the last one. I doubt it would stand up in court if I said "Because the bible says it's okay to cut off my wife's hand."

‎"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you."

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the lord."

"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death."

"Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."

"hen men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets. Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her."