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Murlo26
05-16-2012, 09:46 AM
I saw talk of it on the PG SA thread so hell, I figured I would start it.

Who's in? I am not as familiar with the DSM setups, mostly evo setups so curious who all will be in this class?

I have serious doubts about my car making it there, but I will do my best. I am going to be there spectating at a minimum. But if I race it will be SA/U for sure.

So, who be in??! :)

turbotalon1g
05-16-2012, 12:28 PM
I might be, depends if i get to use slicks.

Tachyon
05-16-2012, 12:49 PM
I might be, depends if i get to use slicks.

Yes you can!

As long as you install a VCE and go FWD...

Just a repost of the SA/U rules:



Stock frame turbocharger

External wastegates are acceptable in any configuration
Intake and Exhaust manifold upgrades are acceptable in any configuration
2G DSMs may run TD05H variations (14B, 16G, etc)


Must have full exhaust that exists behind rear tires
Unlimited fuel modifications (alternative fueling allowed, injection of methanol and nitrous allowed)
Any ECU mods allowed (standalones allowed)
Tire Restrictions

AWD/RWD -- DOT approved drag radials
FWD -- Slicks up to 24.5"




I'm in of course. I am really anxious to fix my daily driver so I can crank the power on the Talon and test!

turbotalon1g
05-16-2012, 04:20 PM
There might need to be more comment on evo turbos in there, unless they all the bolt-ons look stock.

damn it, they should let awd/rwd run slicks too!

Tachyon
05-16-2012, 04:26 PM
There might need to be more comment on evo turbos in there, unless they all the bolt-ons look stock.


I asked for clarification last year (from MAP) and I was told as long as it was 'bolt-on' you were ok.

This of course could get really out of hand if a person were creative.

Murlo26
05-16-2012, 04:56 PM
There are all kinds of evo bolt ons. I think ATP even makes a 35r bolt on which is stupid looking but they make it.

I am pretty sure the rules for SA include a stock compressor cover so even many actual bolt on turbos (EF3, EF4 etc) won't make SA because they use the bigger comp cover.

turbotalon1g
05-16-2012, 04:57 PM
Murlo raises a good point, if not you could use a bolton 6266 even.

Tachyon
05-16-2012, 05:07 PM
They are not going to limit you to a stock compressor cover in SA/U -that's what SA is for. The rules for SA state, "Compressor / turbo inlet must be stock size." SA/U mentions nothing of the like.

Murlo26
05-16-2012, 05:12 PM
They are not going to limit you to a stock compressor cover in SA/U -that's what SA is for. The rules for SA state, "Compressor / turbo inlet must be stock size." SA/U mentions nothing of the like.

Correct, I know SA/U isn't I was simply saying SA had a compressor limit. All that is limiting SA/U is its title...stock appearing!

Sure you can bolt on a 6266 but is that stock appearing...ummm no, lol.

The class is made for the larger appearing stock frame turbos basically. All of them should be MHI turbo based i'd assume.

Tachyon
05-16-2012, 06:33 PM
The class is made for the larger appearing stock frame turbos basically. All of them should be MHI turbo based i'd assume.

This is what I gather as well. If one were to fix a HX40 housing to a bolt-on turbine, I think there might be a judgement call enforced.

I know the "U" class was designed under feedback from a lot of us here to accommodate the most common type of turbo built car you would see on the street, while keeping it competitive for those who do have fully stock turbos (evo SRT MS3), in standard "SA"

While I've seen nothing prohibiting a massive bolt on setup, I think the gentleman's agreement here would be to run in a faster class. I know I would if I had a 60lb/m turbo on a lighter car.