Another manifold test coming soon! FiD-turbo vs MAP

[scheides]

So I got some AMAZING results with MAP's manifold last summer: http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-dyno-results/513898-map-tubular-manifold-dyno-testing-evox.html

Before that ever happened, I committed to MrC at FiD-turbo.com to doing a similar test after several friends worked with them and I saw the quality of craftsmanship and amazing numbers on the CT9A platform:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyno-tuning-results/508829-fid-evo-8-9-tubular-stock-replacement-vs-ported-oem-turbo-manifold.html

I've done a ton of work with MAP as they are local to me (literally minutes from my house) but end of the day I am open to trying different parts combos on my car to try and hopefully seek out the best of the best. MAP builds a beautiful manifold but end of the day I'm an independent guy doing independent testing for the good of the community. I talked to them about this and hopefully they take this in stride and we can all learn from these test results!

Anyways, on to the pics!

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-fid_manifold/IMG_3987.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-fid_manifold/IMG_3988.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-fid_manifold/IMG_3989.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-fid_manifold/IMG_3991.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-fid_manifold/IMG_3992.sized.jpg

Initial impressions:
-easier bolt access around turbo flange than MAP mani
-MAP mani has some of the runner-to-flange transitions welded so they can port in smooth transitions
-portwork on MAP mani looks smoother and more shiny
-welding patterns on both manis are different. I'm not an expert at welding but both look high-quality and STRONG.

FiD mani is now ceramic coated (sorry I didn't get pics yet) and the car will be on the dyno at DB Performance this week (I hope!). Stay tuned!

[awd-drifter]

http://wdpk837.whoisbenhustis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/neo_whoa_1.png

[Goat Blower]

Geez, is that what the exhaust ports on the X head look like? The flange holes transition looks like absolute crap in the pics, hopefully it looks better in person. But in the end, the dyno doesn't lie, so that's what it's really about anyways. I think MAP's going to win this one hands down.

[Kracka]

Looks like some dude cut and ported it with a Dremel :lol:

[scheides]

Geez, is that what the exhaust ports on the X head look like? The flange holes transition looks like absolute crap in the pics, hopefully it looks better in person. But in the end, the dyno doesn't lie, so that's what it's really about anyways. I think MAP's going to win this one hands down.

Yup, they are square just like the flange. Like I said, the MAP mani wins when it comes to smooth transitions from the flange to the tubing and back.

[Goat Blower]

Yup, they are square just like the flange. Like I said, the MAP mani wins when it comes to smooth transitions from the flange to the tubing and back.


That might be kinda important. :wink:

[scheides]

Indeed. They are not insanely different though, I wouldn't say the work on the FiD mani is garbage or anything. We shall see once it comes time to hit the dyno!

[Shane@DBPerformance]

That might be kinda important. :wink:

Big and pretty don't necessarily make power.

[Murlo26]

What day you going to DB scheides?

[Goat Blower]

Big and pretty don't necessarily make power.

True. I found a dyno comparison on evom, looks like it makes 15whp more than a ported stock mani, apparently it does better than I would've thought. :D