View Full Version : Another manifold test coming soon! FiD-turbo vs MAP
v8klla
01-31-2011, 02:08 PM
Big and pretty don't necessarily make power.
Small and ugly isn't always a great combo either ;) I saw this manifold first hand, while it would be acceptable by most standards it simply isn't finished to the degree we require. It will be interesting to see the results regardless.
Murlo26
01-31-2011, 02:24 PM
Small and ugly isn't always a great combo either ;) I saw this manifold first hand, while it would be acceptable by most standards it simply isn't finished to the degree we require. It will be interesting to see the results regardless.
Hopefully this isn't getting off topic at all, but did you guys ever test your mani again aside from Scheides car? I ask because you seemed to think at one point that the dyno runs were started at different times making it look laggy? It looked like it lost 400rpms or maybe 300, but enough to question since you did use 1.25" runners which should be minimal lag.
Shane@DBPerformance
01-31-2011, 02:26 PM
Is the manifold on the car currently a ported stocker or a tubular unit also?
Kracka
01-31-2011, 02:26 PM
My friend Tom down here installed a MAP tubular mani + Blitz intake manifold + AMS downpipe and hardly lost any spool at all on the stock turbo. Let me go look for dyno charts...
http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&boost=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1136&rgb1=000000255&runid2=1407&rgb2=204000000
Kracka
01-31-2011, 02:27 PM
Is the manifold on the car currently a ported stocker or a tubular unit also?
Scheides currently has the MAP tubular.
Shane@DBPerformance
01-31-2011, 02:28 PM
Probably going to have a hard time doing any better then.
Murlo26
01-31-2011, 02:32 PM
My friend Tom down here installed a MAP tubular mani + Blitz intake manifold + AMS downpipe and hardly lost any spool at all on the stock turbo. Let me go look for dyno charts...
http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&boost=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1136&rgb1=000000255&runid2=1407&rgb2=204000000
Those gains are ok...but for the price paid...OUCH, not great gains at all, lol.
But I like that he didn't lose spool...might just have to get a MAP one after all...that was my only concern as a few other ones I like such as the CBRD didn't lose any spool really, similar to what you show.
Kracka
01-31-2011, 02:39 PM
Those gains are ok...but for the price paid...OUCH, not great gains at all, lol.
Peak WHP gains weren't impressive, but the midrange and 7k+ RPM gains were. He's happy with the exhaust manifold for the price, but I know he does regret buying the $$$ Blitz IM (he did get the AMS DP for free though so he can't complain about that).
Murlo26
01-31-2011, 03:02 PM
Peak WHP gains weren't impressive, but the midrange and 7k+ RPM gains were. He's happy with the exhaust manifold for the price, but I know he does regret buying the $$$ Blitz IM (he did get the AMS DP for free though so he can't complain about that).
I was more so thinking along the lines that he could've upgraded to a BBX lite or something for half the price as all that stuff and lost minimal spool and gained a ton more power/torque in all parts of the range :)
Kracka
01-31-2011, 03:04 PM
Valid point, he bought a Green shortly after.
http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&boost=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1407&rgb1=000000255&runid2=1487&rgb2=204000000
Pretty noticeable hit to spool though.
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