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Murlo26
11-04-2010, 02:18 PM
Wow you can post charts of Inherited distruction. You act as if Obama got in there and Instantly spent ass loads of money. Remember, the Bank Bailout was not OBAMA, it was BUSH.

I would say it was both parties at the time..the dems wanted it too when it was passed. (the bailout)

Honestly, the whole mess started when Republicans went candy ass and started trying to play nice with democrats instead of sticking to their usual conservative methods. The problem with that is the democrats don't give shit back ever, as in they only vote/spend/think liberal, they will never be bi-partisan.

The republicans owned this week in elections because they went back to their roots...and it turn will level the playing field again.

A//// Guy
11-04-2010, 02:33 PM
Yes bush did start the bank bailouts to try and turn the economy down, it helped but wasnt a cure.

Now Obamas on a spending rampage. Here is where some of his money is going:
• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wild land fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

WTF at some of these? Like they were necessary?

Oh yea and Tom take a gander at this: http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=394

Huh.

Shane@DBPerformance
11-04-2010, 03:06 PM
All of which are dwarfed by the cost of the Iraq war.

Murlo26
11-04-2010, 03:19 PM
All of which are dwarfed by the cost of the Iraq war.

So true...however, I would argue (not that its a good thing) that wars are profitable sadly.

goodhart
11-04-2010, 03:23 PM
So true...however, I would argue (not that its a good thing) that wars are profitable sadly.

Profitable for the private sector niche companies like Blackwater and Haliburton (just an example), not for the government lol

tpunx99GSX
11-04-2010, 03:23 PM
All of which are dwarfed by the cost of the Iraq war.

Of which was sheilded from public eye as to how much it actually did cost.

So true...however, I would argue (not that its a good thing) that wars are profitable sadly.

Profitable to Whom? We spent that money to rebuild another country, and to companies that were doing a bang up job of it? ::rolls eyes::

Murlo26
11-04-2010, 03:25 PM
Profitable for the private sector niche companies like Blackwater and Haliburton (just an example), not for the government lol

Never said it was profitable for the govt, lol...but lots of private sector stuff, huge profits.

Sure we rebuilt a country, but now we have cheaper gas ;)

tpunx99GSX
11-04-2010, 03:27 PM
Yes bush did start the bank bailouts to try and turn the economy down, it helped but wasnt a cure.

Now Obamas on a spending rampage. Here is where some of his money is going:
• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wild land fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

WTF at some of these? Like they were necessary?

Oh yea and Tom take a gander at this: http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=394

Huh.

by 2006 with 6 years as bush had approved over 31,000 earmarked projects. 31,000!!!!
Sorry but there just isnt enough room here to list them all.

Kracka
11-04-2010, 03:52 PM
American has spoken. That is all. I'm hoping for 2 years of stalemate in which time hopefully the GOP can find a solid presidential candidate to run in 2012.

Matt D.
11-04-2010, 04:22 PM
by 2006 with 6 years as bush had approved over 31,000 earmarked projects. 31,000!!!!
Sorry but there just isnt enough room here to list them all.
FYI, Bush isn't in office any longer. Just saying.