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[95talonracer]

There it is from a guy first hand! Props to you Mike.Obama didn't end this war. Bush did with the "Surge" in 2007. I saw this first hand as I was extended an extra 4 months on top of my already 18 month deployment. It really sucked at the time, I hated Bush with a passion, but I have to give him credit, it really did end the most violent part of the war. After the surge this war was pretty much over.

[Matt D.]

Obama didn't end this war. Bush did with the "Surge" in 2007. I saw this first hand as I was extended an extra 4 months on top of my already 18 month deployment. It really sucked at the time, I hated Bush with a passion, but I have to give him credit, it really did end the most violent part of the war. After the surge this war was pretty much over.
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[Halon]

It's been a long time coming, and all I can do is wish the country the best of luck.

[1ViciousGSX]

The surge worked. Obama still chokes when he has to admit that.

[tpunx99GSX]

yes the surge worked. but Yet 3 years and they were still Fighting a war with no time line and end was not the right thing. Obama came into office with a strict time line. He has now just met that time line, without calling mission accomplished as bush did way too early.
I hope that Iraq can come through and rebuild their country, initial estimates of dead iraqis range between 150,000 - 1.5 million. Unfortunately we may never know the true death count.
Honestly there is no reason to come down on the guy that officially ended a very unpopular war. I always will have respect for our soldiers that fought in the war.
Who can say whether McCain would have done the same thing?
As long as this sticks and the Iraqis finally do the right thing and put in a government that will unite the people and bring baddies to justice, they will be fine. We can only hope that it doesnt go the other way.

[goodhart]

yes the surge worked. but Yet 3 years and they were still Fighting a war with no time line and end was not the right thing. Obama came into office with a strict time line. He has now just met that time line, without calling mission accomplished as bush did way too early.


Just like Vietnam ended in 1975 right Tom? :rolleyes:

Yes. I know people were still dying because of IED's, etc. But 99% of the fighting stopped back in 2007/08.

[Matt D.]

Honestly there is no reason to come down on the guy that officially ended a very unpopular war.
Except for Obamanoids like you who act as if he deserves a medal of honor. :angryfire:

[tpunx99GSX]

Except for Obamanoids like you who act as if he deserves a medal of honor. :angryfire:

Honestly, no matter what the guy does, Hell he could cure cancer and you anti anything obama would come up with an excuse to knock it down. Its an election year so of course the right and mid-right will bring up any issue and make it obama and the democrats fault. Hell he could take a Right wing policy, Give them full credit for it, sign it into law and the right will yell and scream that they dont want this policy and WAAH WAAH WAAH. Do you guys ever get tired of bitching and complaining all the time? Just shut the fuck up for once and be happy that our troops are leaving that wasteland.

[1ViciousGSX]

Honestly, no matter what the guy does, Hell he could cure cancer and you anti anything obama would come up with an excuse to knock it down. Its an election year so of course the right and mid-right will bring up any issue and make it obama and the democrats fault. Hell he could take a Right wing policy, Give them full credit for it, sign it into law and the right will yell and scream that they dont want this policy and WAAH WAAH WAAH. Do you guys ever get tired of bitching and complaining all the time? Just shut the fuck up for once and be happy that our troops are leaving that wasteland.
I'm extremely happy that less soldiers will be fighting and dying. Doesn't mean Obama deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Oh wait, he already got one that he didn't deserve. :crapper:

[Matt D.]

I'm extremely happy that less soldiers will be fighting and dying. Doesn't mean Obama deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Oh wait, he already got one that he didn't deserve. :crapper:
This.