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[tpunx99GSX]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/31/iraq.us/index.html?hpt=T1

[Matt D.]

It's been a long time coming, but I'm worried about that country's future and what it will mean for the region. They are broken and I don't know that they can survive on their own.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

What they need is a strong handed dictator to keep the various sects and problem makers under control, instead of forcing democracy on a culture not ready for it.

[Goat Blower]

It'll be interesting to see how things pan out there. I kind of agree that we've done what we can do there, and it's time to scale back. I doubt if anyone knows for sure. It'll be interesting to see if these guys take credit for the good parts of it. I'm sure it'll be the usual Bush-bashing session that Obama is so good at.

[Matt D.]

What they need is a strong handed dictator to keep the various sects and problem makers under control, instead of forcing democracy on a culture not ready for it.
Yeah, their culture is so heavily religion oriented. It's kind of crazy seeing the different denominations fighting for power. It would be frightening to see catholics fighting with baptists, lutherans, etc. here.

[1ViciousGSX]

We'll be back in 10 yrs or less.

[Spikesoftail]

Ther is unfortunatly no good out-come here, we could stay there forever and it will be as it is, costing us billions of dollors and countless more lives. Or we can leave and will go back to exactly the way it was before. We have done a lot of good for these people, built schools, stores, homes, but there is no way to build a stable country with all the fighting going on between religios factions. There has always been war and will always be war.

[tpunx99GSX]

It'll be interesting to see if these guys take credit for the good parts of it. I'm sure it'll be the usual Bush-bashing session that Obama is so good at.
Actually my bet is on the oppisite. hes going to take credit for ending it and sticking by his goal. But he had been on the phone with Bush today (they are tight lipped as to what was said) but id be willing to guess that he is going to give credit to Bush for at least finding saddam.

[Goat Blower]

I was surprised when Biden actually gave Bush some credit for winning over there about 3 months ago.

[goodhart]

Actually my bet is on the oppisite. hes going to take credit for ending it and sticking by his goal. But he had been on the phone with Bush today (they are tight lipped as to what was said) but id be willing to guess that he is going to give credit to Bush for at least finding saddam.


Obama didn't end this war. Bush did with the "Surge" in 2007. I saw this first hand as I was extended an extra 4 months on top of my already 18 month deployment. It really sucked at the time, I hated Bush with a passion, but I have to give him credit, it really did end the most violent part of the war. After the surge this war was pretty much over.