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MATCHBX
07-28-2010, 01:14 PM
Tell that to Ken Block since he has yet to finish an Ojibwe for the last 2-3 years. He's totalled 2 cars out in the last 2 events. I can't help but chuckle a little inside when we come upon his car all twisted up on the side of the stage road (at least after we have made sure he and Alex are ok). I still have parts of his car in my CR-V.

Money will only carry you so far, you need talent to finish it out.

Tachyon
07-28-2010, 01:37 PM
Tell that to Ken Block since he has yet to finish an Ojibwe for the last 2-3 years. He's totalled 2 cars out in the last 2 events. I can't help but chuckle a little inside when we come upon his car all twisted up on the side of the stage road (at least after we have made sure he and Alex are ok). I still have parts of his car in my CR-V.

Money will only carry you so far, you need talent to finish it out.

This. I always get a kick out of Duplessis, Greenhouse and even Eixenberger whipping the tar out of much more financed teams, time and time again, in old, low powered econo boxes. But then again, experience does have a financial price tag...

The problem is rally is very cost prohibitive. To just attend a regional co-efficient 2 our team would be looking at a minimum of $2000 for entry fees, tires, fuel for support vehicles, crew (lodging, meals, transportation) parts and maintenance, etc... And I guarantee you, we operate on a lower budget than a lot of regional teams. Not having that level of disposable income each and every month, we have to pick and choose which rallies we are going to enter. (sorry Carl, we chose to skip OFR in favor of doing NT3, and LSPR)

Because there is really no economic structure to support any but the very top drivers here in the States, most of the competitors finance themselves mostly out of pocket. At a hobbyist level, that's fine, you're after the experience and not so much the points. But if RA wants to attract more serious drivers and a greater fan base to grow the sport upon, they have to cater to the 90% to gain some traction. Sports thrive on competition. To create a better competitive base, the sport needs to be more accessible to a greater number of people.

MATCHBX
07-28-2010, 01:50 PM
Which car are you driving at NT3? We better not see you except in service and at the starts and finishes (we'll be driving the med sweep CR-V again for this one).

Ojibwe is uber affordable this year. Entry fees are much cheaper than when we were a national. I suppose it would be a lot easier with some good sponsors too.

carlvr4
07-28-2010, 01:53 PM
Paul, I hope you and Derek can at least come out and volunteer at OFR.

OFR is still huge value considering it is 6 coefficients. skip the hotel and go camping! (that's the only way we could afford STPR)

Tachyon
07-28-2010, 02:39 PM
Which car are you driving at NT3? We better not see you except in service and at the starts and finishes (we'll be driving the med sweep CR-V again for this one).

Ojibwe is uber affordable this year. Entry fees are much cheaper than when we were a national. I suppose it would be a lot easier with some good sponsors too.

We'll be out there in the Tiburon. Don't worry though, apparently we are not fast enough to end up in the woods :lol:

I agree, it's a bargain. Plus I was really looking forward to notes. No, the car build this year went well over double our anticipated budget, and unfortunately the mortgage has to take priority (weak).

Paul, I hope you and Derek can at least come out and volunteer at OFR.

OFR is still huge value considering it is 6 coefficients. skip the hotel and go camping! (that's the only way we could afford STPR)

I know. RAWR! Things are just that tight right now. Are you guys going to be camping up there for this event? I might be interested in tagging along for the hell of it.

MATCHBX
07-28-2010, 10:40 PM
I know how it goes with small budgets. Being that we have a little one on the way this January, I have decided to not rallycross or work any of the rallys next year possibly 2 years.

Can't wait for saturday!! If you can't run OFR, it would be great to have you come up and volunteer. I know they are short staffed the way it is and any extra people would be a great help. We'll be doing bannering and med sweep up there too.

carlvr4
07-29-2010, 07:38 AM
We'll be out there in the Tiburon. Don't worry though, apparently we are not fast enough to end up in the woods :lol:

I agree, it's a bargain. Plus I was really looking forward to notes. No, the car build this year went well over double our anticipated budget, and unfortunately the mortgage has to take priority (weak).



I know. RAWR! Things are just that tight right now. Are you guys going to be camping up there for this event? I might be interested in tagging along for the hell of it.

we're big budget, holiday inn express lol! we need more G2 entries for OFR, queue up the ramen diet!

carlvr4
08-05-2010, 02:17 PM
two very fast lancers entered! in 2wd the Zedrils in a 2003 Lancer ES and in 4wd Kishkarev/DeMotte in a 1997 EVO

MATCHBX
08-06-2010, 01:17 PM
There's about half of the field with 2wd cars!! Mostly Group2 entries!! This should be a good event. We already have 25 entries.

Paul, sorry about the car at Nemadji. We were sad to see it on the side of the road, but very glad to see that it was a mechanical and not a serious off. Sucks the engine had to go down in flames. But now it gives you an excuse to go bigger!! And you got to see some of the rally from your own "marshal" point. It was great of the 510 crew to let you borrow their trailer to tow the car back to the garage. That's the thing I love about rally. The people involved are all willing to help at a moments notice. Hopefully we'll see you up at Ojibwe in some capacity. Sorry we didn't get a chance to talk much at Nemadji (other than me grabbing your scorecard and taking off).

Erik D

carlvr4
08-13-2010, 03:04 PM
the stage schedule is available

http://ojibweforestrally.com/docs/2010-Public-Schedule.pdf

as are spectator maps
http://ojibweforestrally.com/docs/2010-Spectator-Maps.pdf

general schedule
http://ojibweforestrally.com/docs/2010_OjibweForestsRallySchedule.pdf