I think.. I want an Evo X

[clean2g]

I love my 2g, the car has been a blast since day 1, and anyone who knows me knows that I love and baby my car, but wanting to make more power is becoming a chore. I know the platform for DSMs is still strong, but at the same time I feel like I'm missing out on some of the newer advances in automotive technology. So I'm giving thought to possibly selling my 97 GSX and getting an Evo X. So I was wondering what were the deciding factors that made Evo owners on this board move from the DSM platform to the Evo platform?

[mlomker]

If power is your goal then it seems like a bad choice to me, especially a X. What the Evo has going for it is handling and the latest drive-train features. If you're interested in road course or auto-x then it makes sense. If drag racing is your thing then it's a more expensive way to go, from what I've seen.

[Kracka]

Evos are newer and nicer, thats what made me get a IX. The X is smoother and more refined feeling while still being an Evo underneath, that's what made me switch to the X.

Stock the Evo's come equipped with all the things that make for a great street DSM: twin-scroll 16G (8/9), Recaro seats, Brembo brakes, etc. A few minor bolt-ons and a tune and you're at ~300 WHP @ DB on the stock fuel pump and injectors (with a IX or X).

[scheides]

^and 'big' injectors compared to a DSM. An exhaust, mbc, and a tune turn Evos into the perfect DSMs! Evo8's can benifit greatly from a fuel pump and cams too, but I was gunning 240whp or so with my last 1G (exhaust, FMIC, cams, big16g, 650's, s-afc) and that is pretty much cakewalk in any evo. Add in the brakes/handling/seats out of the box and they're a dsmer's dream!

It was actually Anna (my wife) that said I should consider getting my evo8. I had a 2G that I was dumping $500+into per month for mods and maintenance, and I was considering getting a ~$10k Audi as a second car. Two ~$10k cars worth of maintenance, insurance, and loan payments added up to more than a single evo, and the decision was an easy one for her!

In general they're more reliable than DSM's but *only* because of their younger age. They still have a lot of the same problems and will eventually need all the TLC a dsm does.

I jumped ship to the evoX after I crashed my evo8. I had found a steal of a deal on an evoX w/ 20k on it, and it was only ~$2k more than a 60k mile evo9. In general, evo8's can be had for high $teen's, IX's for low $20's, and X's for $25-30k. Figure out what you can safely afford (including insurance), plan for a little bit of fun money (exhaust and a tune) down the road, and don't look back! Then, start looking....

[cmspaz]

I switched to get away from the rust and 14 year-old car issues and get something that would be a much better platform for autocross. Everything else I would have said has already been said.

[Murlo26]

What are your end goals for the car...just making raw power? The X is very capable of making huge power, just like the 4g63 did. It's only real disadvantage is it's weight if you are talking 1/4 mile stuff. I still fully intend to get my X down the 1/4 track quickly, but I had to spend more money then i would've liked :)

I would half way be tempted to suggest the 9 for straight 1/4 with a 5 speed. But the prices are almost too close, so if you can afford it, i'd probably say just get the X.

[sleepydsm]

How are you having issues making more power with your 4G63 in your car?

Switching to a newer car really isn't gonna help you there, unless you're talking baby mods.

Baby mod for baby mod, the newer car will most likely provide better results... or will they?

My healthy bone stock 1g probably would have made about 150 AWHP (based on an estimate from Shane) on DBs dyno. With an exhuast, air filter, MBC at 15psi, it went to 209awhp. Thats about 60awhp on a Dyno Dynamics... With the most basic of bolt-ons.

[Kracka]

My healthy bone stock 1g probably would have made about 150 AWHP (based on an estimate from Shane) on DBs dyno. With an exhuast, air filter, MBC at 15psi, it went to 209awhp. Thats about 60awhp on a Dyno Dynamics... With the most basic of bolt-ons.
For comparison, a stock IX or X would be ~220 then add in those basic mods and you're looking at ~290 with a tune.

[Murlo26]

Yea with the X i broke 300whp with just an exhaust and intake.

I would say Evo 9 or X, either would be a great choice OP.

[sleepydsm]

For comparison, a stock IX or X would be ~220 then add in those basic mods and you're looking at ~290 with a tune.



Thats roughly a 30% increase.

The 1g got roughly a 40% increase, with old crappy technology, less efficient. WOO. Thats like comparing HP/Liter haha.

Output to output, the newer cars start with more efficient, refined, powerful engines.

Of course a newer car off the bat will be more powerful, but is the difference in true potential really there (in a straight line of course :) )?