I think.. I want an Evo X

[Murlo26]

If you are going to argue straight line performance you mind as well stop there...any older mustang or camaro will go faster in a straight line for cheaper than any import.

I am not trying to start shit but nobody buys an evo because it can only go fast straight...it can also turn very well. And if anything, the DSM's might of just had a crappier tune from the factory, there are tons of factors.

Also, the X's are more like 210, 215 tops and with the mods can break 300whp. However, as you stated, the are good and beefy :)

[sleepydsm]

The OP was concerned with output, as in power, or HP/TQ of his platform (DSM). I really don't think that would warrent a change in platform, unless you want to upgrade to a newer, smoother, more comfortable, practical, better handling and braking, (uglier?), more expensive car. If power is the concern, the current platform really isn't holding back in my opinion.

And we cannot start a "v8 vs. 4bngr" arguement here.... We all know there really is no replacement for displacement. All the V8 guys with slow cars are too busy polishing their chrome or looking at a JCWhitney catalog...

[Murlo26]

LOL, i agree with you completely, that is why i asked the OP what his intentions were...twas my first question.

Honestly, if i were going for straight line performance only...a DSM would be a car i would look at, they aren't too tough to get moving fast, the 4g63 is a great motor.

[sleepydsm]

I am not trying to start shit but nobody buys an evo because it can only go fast straight...

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Not that it can only go fast straight, but it can go fast straight very well LOL.

[Murlo26]

I was talking about regular people that plan to DD them in some form or another.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

If you want life to be easy, get an Evo 9 GSR. If you want a nicer interior and a softer ride and less of a race car, then get the Evo X GSR, but it will be more work and more expensive to mod.

[Murlo26]

^Couldn't have said it better myself, Shane is wise.

[clean2g]

Honestly, I want something that I can daily drive with decent power. I'll probably drive it year round. I don't have goals of anything above 350-400 awhp (if that) at this time, even with my DSM. I'm somewhat close to that with a few more mods in my 2g, but the reality is, the car is coming of age, in the sense that the body, suspension, etc are not holding like they used to. Things are starting to need replacement, in compounding levels. I've driven this car as a daily driver (not out of choice) for the past 4-5 years, through winters. I've done my best to take care of it, but I can only do so much. Do I really want to keep spending $100-$500 here and there to keep the car in running condition (not including mods) as Scheides also stated? Or would I rather save that money and put it towards something newer that I could mod heavily 2-3 years from now?

I don't know, maybe I just need a second car that is reliable and keep building the 2g - or just sell the 2g and use that money and the money I would have used to buy a second car, to buy a newer car, whatever it may be. The Evo 9 option Shane suggested is something I hadn't considered, will probably look into that. Regardless, I don't think I'll be making any final decisions until next spring, but I figured I should start planning now and get feedback/insight from others on the board.

[mlomker]

I don't have goals of anything above 350-400 awhp (if that) at this time, even with my DSM.

Not difficult. A stock turbo on E85 is around 340. A stock-frame turbo will get you there on pump.

[turbotalon1g]

My vote is to drive one and see how you like it.

I have always owned old shit, my wifes car is a '05 and its amazing to me, when I jump in newer stuff I am constantly amazed by the common/standard features that weren't common/standard in '91.
No biggie I live in my price range and its cool, but it sounds like you want something a bit more today.

From what I have seen dyno wise, shane hit it on the head.
While I don't quite agree that the X motor is as good as the 4G63 this isn't the thread and I really don't know enough about the 4b11 to say.

I think you can't go wrong with newer anytime and it sounds like your reasons for the switch are good, plus they do make more power and handle better and there is more room. Which IMO is perfect for a daily.

Good luck. I'm sure these guys will take you on a ride and maybe even let you drive.