Adjustment or Something Else?

[LingLing]

So just tonight it's been starting to grind going in to 1st when I'm slowing down to a stop or when I'm stopped, and going in to 3rd when I'm shifting under normal driving conditions. In both instances the clutch will be all the way to the floor. I haven't really been beating on it, no launches, a few 2nd to 3rd pulls and 3rd to 4th but nothing crazy since I'm still getting used to the car. The clutch is good, It grabs hard and doesn't slip.

I've been thinking about adjusting the clutch a bit, because it seems to grab really low off the floor, and there's moderate play at the top. The shifter components could probably use some freshening up too. It doesn't feel terrible, but I think the throw could be tightened. From what I can tell the shifter is a cut stock unit.

I'm debating about dropping the cash on the JNZ short throw because it seems it's the only quality option for the 1g. I've also been debating on getting some sort of shift bushing replacement.

In no way am I implying Kevin sold me something that is on the way out. For all I know it could just be me. I'm not sold on any diagnosis yet, as it has only started tonight. Any feedback would be appreciated.

[s1ngletracker]

I believe you can adjust the clutch MC rod... I'd do that to get engagement off the floor a bit and eliminate some of the freeplay. It will require some cortonionism though.

I wouldn't waste your time with a short throw. A cut stock unit is basically the same thing. I'd take out the center console, eliminate the rubber base bushings and just use washers, don't need anything fancy. Also, make sure the pivoting assembly is tight and doesn't have any play. Just look at it as you shift around to the different positions with the center console/boot out. If you see some weird movement that shouldnt be there, you may need to replace bushings, I believe you can get them from Mitsubishi. Or just find someone parting a car out with a good shifter assembly. Could just be some loose bolts down there too.

I wouldn't be surprised either that your car grinds. I've never had a DSM that doesn't grind at least a bit in certain gears in certain situations.

[LingLing]

I believe you can adjust the clutch MC rod... I'd do that to get engagement off the floor a bit and eliminate some of the freeplay. It will require some cortonionism though.

I wouldn't waste your time with a short throw. A cut stock unit is basically the same thing. I'd take out the center console, eliminate the rubber base bushings and just use washers, don't need anything fancy. Also, make sure the pivoting assembly is tight and doesn't have any play. Just look at it as you shift around to the different positions with the center console/boot out. If you see some weird movement that shouldnt be there, you may need to replace bushings, I believe you can get them from Mitsubishi. Or just find someone parting a car out with a good shifter assembly. Could just be some loose bolts down there too.

I wouldn't be surprised either that your car grinds. I've never had a DSM that doesn't grind at least a bit in certain gears in certain situations.

Yeah, I was thinking about practicing my flexibility skills and adjusting the MC rod. Can someone tell me what size that nut is? I'll have to go out and buy a wrench since all my tools are 2 hours away haha.

I'll start with adjusting the the MC rod, and throw some washers on there too. Thanks for the feedback.

[123abc]

It's either a 12 or a 10. Loosen up the lock nut and on a good mc you should be able to twist the rod with your fingers. No washers involved either. Once you get under the car and have a look at how things work it's pretty easy to figure out what to do.

[LingLing]

It's either a 12 or a 10. Loosen up the lock nut and on a good mc you should be able to twist the rod with your fingers.

Great, I'll go pick myself up a high quality wal-mart wrench tomorrow haha.

[1QUICK4]

Make sure the nut securing the pedal assembly to the master isn't loose. after you push the clutch in and let it out, grab the pedal and pull up. If there is any freeplay it is most likely one of your problems.

It's common as hell on 1G's. If it's loose for two long it will round the keyway off the pedal assembly.

Taboo used to have a right up about removing it and welding it but if you pull the pedal up and tighten the shit out of it, it will be good for a long time.

Make sure there isn't any slack before you adjust the rod

It's either a 12 or a 10. Loosen up the lock nut and on a good mc you should be able to twist the rod with your fingers.

Yep, if it wont move easily just wiggle the pedal and it should spin with ease

[turbotalon1g]

10mm. I have some base shifter bushings if you need.

[LingLing]

Make sure the nut securing the pedal assembly to the master isn't loose. after you push the clutch in and let it out, grab the pedal and pull up. If there is any freeplay it is most likely one of your problems.

It's common as hell on 1G's. If it's loose for two long it will round the keyway off the pedal assembly.



I didn't think about that. Good call, I'll be sure to check that too.

10mm. I have some base shifter bushings if you need.

Awesome, thanks! I'll let you know if I need those or not. I'll be doing all this tomorrow.

[sleepydsm]

Don't downshift into first.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

The cables already have bushings in them on the transmission side, and I still have the bushings for the shifter base. I was gonna throw them in the car on tuesday before you picked it up, but I forgot.

When I installed the new master a year and a half ago I'm pretty sure I left it adjusted all the way out, but it's possible something could have loosened up in that time. One more thing you could try is to re-bleed the slave. When I installed the new slave about a month ago I just gave it a quick bleed, and it's possible there's still a little air in the system somewhere. It would grind into first or reverse for me every once in a while, but I never had any grinding issues with any other gears.

Also, I never did anything with the clutch pedal assembly, and it's possible that could be getting worn out as well, it is an 18 year old car. There's a mod you can do that involves a little welding that should take care of any play there may be in the pedal assembly.