View Full Version : Adjustment or Something Else?
LingLing
03-05-2010, 11:43 PM
Don't downshift into first.
I'm not engine braking in first, I'm shifting in to first with the clutch in rolling >5mph.
The cables already have bushings in them on the transmission side, and I still have the bushings for the shifter base. I was gonna throw them in the car on tuesday before you picked it up, but I forgot.
When I installed the new master a year and a half ago I'm pretty sure I left it adjusted all the way out, but it's possible something could have loosened up in that time. One more thing you could try is to re-bleed the slave. When I installed the new slave about a month ago I just gave it a quick bleed, and it's possible there's still a little air in the system somewhere. It would grind into first or reverse for me every once in a while, but I never had any grinding issues with any other gears.
Okay, I'll those things out too. I know it's not something major. Everything works great, might just need some fine tuning. Thanks again Kevin.
123abc
03-05-2010, 11:59 PM
Don't downshift into first.
Why not? Rev matching makes 1st gear a breeze.
4g63tcrazy
03-06-2010, 02:02 AM
I never go into 1st gear til I'm fully stopped. It bothers the shit out of me when I see people forcing it into first when rolling to a stop. Just be easy on it and wait til your fully stopped. No reason to make your syncro's work any harder than they have to. Also when you do adjustments to the rod, make SMALL adjustments and test it out. Small adjustments will make a big difference. There is also supposed to be a little bit of slop at the top of the pedal travel. I think it was about an 1" of slop IIRC.
blackrosenova400
03-06-2010, 03:24 AM
Test if you need to adjust first.
On even pavement, with the clutch pedal to the floor, parking brake released, put it in first gear and rev up the engine to your redline. If your car moves your clutch is dragging and is causing poor syncro engagement. If it doesnt move then theres a good chance the syncros are worn.
If it is your clutch dragging, adjust it immediatly as driving it this way kills syncronizers.
123abc
03-06-2010, 07:48 AM
I never go into 1st gear til I'm fully stopped. It bothers the shit out of me when I see people forcing it into first when rolling to a stop. Just be easy on it and wait til your fully stopped. No reason to make your syncro's work any harder than they have to. Also when you do adjustments to the rod, make SMALL adjustments and test it out. Small adjustments will make a big difference. There is also supposed to be a little bit of slop at the top of the pedal travel. I think it was about an 1" of slop IIRC.
I guess I've never had a problem on my DSM's going into first while moving. I figure as long as it goes into gear fine without any grinding, its golden. I can see bad things happening though if people do that on a car with bad disengagement.
LingLing
03-06-2010, 10:09 AM
when you do adjustments to the rod, make SMALL adjustments and test it out. Small adjustments will make a big difference. There is also supposed to be a little bit of slop at the top of the pedal travel. I think it was about an 1" of slop IIRC.
Gotcha, I'll keep that in mind, when I break my neck to get to it lol
If your car moves your clutch is dragging and is causing poor syncro engagement. If it doesnt move then theres a good chance the syncros are worn.
If it is your clutch dragging, adjust it immediatly as driving it this way kills syncronizers.
So what you're saying is I lose either way hahahaha. I'm pretty sure the pedal needs adjustment or the pedal assembly is just getting old. Both of which are understandable. I'm gonna grab 10mm/12mm wrench today and test my flexibility. I'll keep you guys updated.
Thanks for all the input!
twack
03-06-2010, 10:12 AM
Great, I'll go pick myself up a high quality wal-mart wrench tomorrow haha.
wait....you bought kevins badass car and you dont even have any tools to work on it.........please dont tell me your in over your head
LingLing
03-06-2010, 10:14 AM
LOL I have tons of tools at my parents house (Used to work @ Saturn)...which is 2 hours away, don't feel like driving that far for a wrench. And it'd be cheaper for me to buy a wrench than to drive all the way up there and back.
CarPsyco84
03-06-2010, 01:06 PM
It's pretty common to have the clutch assembly so loose that the master isn't long enough to take up all the play, at which point there are 2 options, make the threads on the master longer or fix the pedal. Option 2 is a PITA unless theres a trick to welding them in the car.
LingLing
03-06-2010, 03:16 PM
Adjusting the clutch a bit fixed everything! Thanks for the input guys!
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