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96GST16g
02-23-2010, 07:22 PM
if you have the right tire size number like 205 40 r what ever it wont matter as long as it isnt like a 205 45 r what ever because im pretty sure that one tires gonna have a little bit less tread then all the other 3
4g63tcrazy
02-23-2010, 07:51 PM
As long as the rolling diameter of all 4 tires are the same, you will be fine. End of thread.
awd-drifter
02-23-2010, 08:06 PM
At Discount Tires, we can not install staggered rims onto awd vehicles because of any issues that involve the possibility of drivetrain damage. Personally...I would put it on just for the 'badass' look LOL, but I haven't seen any real world damages with awd having staggered fitment. But, having if you have 205 fronts with 245 rears, it will eventually possibly damage the drivetrain because of different traction the tires have.
I can see having 18s all around with +25 fronts/-5 rear offset with the same tire size...but the tires have to be the same all around.
(note: in class right now if post doesn't make sense :p...)
sleepydsm
02-23-2010, 08:26 PM
Ok some of you clearly don't understand what the numbers on a tire sidewall mean.
goodhart
02-23-2010, 08:27 PM
At Discount Tires, we can not install staggered rims onto awd vehicles because of any issues that involve the possibility of drivetrain damage. Personally...I would put it on just for the 'badass' look LOL, but I haven't seen any real world damages with awd having staggered fitment. But, having if you have 205 fronts with 245 rears, it will eventually possibly damage the drivetrain because of different traction the tires have.
I can see having 18s all around with +25 fronts/-5 rear offset with the same tire size...but the tires have to be the same all around.
(note: in class right now if post doesn't make sense :p...)
Staggered as in the width, not the circumference.
awd-drifter
02-23-2010, 09:16 PM
Ok some of you clearly don't understand what the numbers on a tire sidewall mean.
lol...so a 60 series is low profile right? lol.
Staggered as in the width, not the circumference.
that's what i meant.
hmm...googled 'staggered talon' and found this
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/wes-harrison/Talon/Good3.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/wes-harrison/Talon/Good1.jpg
4g63tcrazy
02-23-2010, 09:27 PM
Ok some of you clearly don't understand what the numbers on a tire sidewall mean.
+1
Also just some food for thought. Even though the tire may be the same exact size. They could have a different rolling diameter if it's not the same brand tire. I had Toyo proxies 225/45r18's and General uhp 225/45r18's and the Generals were alot taller of a tire. (Larger rolling diameter)
Goat Blower
02-23-2010, 10:38 PM
Here's a little helpful website. http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/info_specs.jsp
Now punch in the size you are keeping, then play around with the other one til the rolling circumference is almost identical. For example, my rear tires are 255/40/17 on 9" rims, I'm keeping those and putting narrower wheels and tires up front to keep in the fenders, in my case, 225/45/17's on 8" rims. If you plug both of those in the calcutor on that website, you'll see they are almost identical. You can also play with offsets on there, but if we're still explaining what sidewall numbers mean here, we'lll save custom offsets, shortened control arms and mini-tubs for another day.:)
asshanson
02-24-2010, 02:14 AM
The question is, why do you want staggered wheels? I'd personally want skinnier tires on the rear to counter-act the understeer that plagues DSMs.
As far as maintaining circumference goes, my caddy does have 245/45/18 in the front, and 275/40/18 in the rear, within .1% total circumference, I'd say that's safe for AWD. You just have to find a size that matches.
Pushit2.0
02-24-2010, 03:41 AM
I would still check with a cloth tape measure or laying out a rolling diameter on the ground before I put different wheel/tire combos on the front/rear of my AWD vehical. You could also run the car on DB's dyno, they can show front/rear wheel speed/power splits.
~John
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