New to E85. Getting a baseline...

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

Haha can you be a little more specific? All their gauges say Innovate on them, and the gauge I have has the red/blue sweeping lights.

[jrohner]

Just go to either innovates site or MAPerformance and you'll see it, oh lazy one.

[FattyBoomBatty]

Hey, he's been around three years longer than you, he deserves to be lazy. ;)

[desolate]

I 2nd, 3rd, the wideband as well. You'll be able to know what's going on. I believe PLX makes widebands that simulate the o2 signal. I have an AEM and it does not simulate an o2 signal.

[CVD]

Alright, so here are my parameters for a wideband, it has to:

1. simulate the factory narrowband O2
2. have a standard size gauge (not a box like the PLX)
3. go in the factory location/bung
4. have a digital readout
5. cheap and easy to install are big pluses.

I'm browsing them, but it's hard to tell which ones meet my requirements.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

Just go to either innovates site or MAPerformance and you'll see it, oh lazy one.

If you're talking about the gauge I assume you're talking about (since you apparently can't provide a part number), it's the same gauge I have, the XD-16. The only price I've been able to find for that kit is $320 The only kit they have listed for the ~200 you claim, is the LC-1 controller and sensor only, no gauge. The cheapest kit Innovate has with a gauge is either the DB kit (digital only readout) at $230 on Innovate's web site, or the G2 or G3 kit (analog only read out), at $250 according to MAP's website.

Now, back on topic. Installation was very easy with only 3 wires to hook up for the controller (one power, two ground) and one power and one ground for the gauge. I chose to wire up the power for the gauge and the controller together, so there was a total of 3 connections I had to make in the car. Everything else in the kit was plug and play.

I could have put the sensor in the stock location, but I can't get into DSMlink (no laptop) to get the ECU to read the wideband output, and I wasn't sure how to wire it into the ECU. Another thing with putting them in the stock location, is that the sensor has the potential of burning out faster than if it were farther down in the stream, but that's also a debatable issue.

[scheides]

Hrm, I had the PLX M-300 on my 2G with a gauge option, it worked fantastic....only problem is I do not see it on their site anymore...

[scheides]

How about this?

http://www.maperformance.com/innovate-db-gauge-wideband-kit-w-sensor.html

I have the LC-1 on my evo, works great. Some people have problems with the sensors going out, but I have had good luck with mine. I bet if you asked nicely you could get it for a great deal from MAP or one of our other vendors.

Oh, and it does have narrowband emulation setup as well...you can even program it to be whatever AFR you want ;) Default is 14.7 of course.

[4seasons69]

http://www.maperformance.com/plx-devices-wideband-oxygen-sensor-dm-5-display.html

this is the plx I have and it meets all your criteria

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

How about this?

http://www.maperformance.com/innovate-db-gauge-wideband-kit-w-sensor.html

I have the LC-1 on my evo, works great. Some people have problems with the sensors going out, but I have had good luck with mine. I bet if you asked nicely you could get it for a great deal from MAP or one of our other vendors.

Oh, and it does have narrowband emulation setup as well...you can even program it to be whatever AFR you want ;) Default is 14.7 of course.
The LC-1 uses the same Bosch sensor as most other widebands, so if it ever does burn out it's an easy replacement.

Also, it seems the DB kit is cheaper on the Innovate website.