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cmspaz
06-13-2009, 01:21 PM
Supposedly he's getting 2-3psi by 1800 with the piping that short. If that's truly the case, fuck anti-lag.

twack
06-13-2009, 01:44 PM
why not just run no intercooler like crazy said with meth. Its been done and works. Now that will be the best system with the least amount of lag

4g63tcrazy
06-13-2009, 01:49 PM
Maybe I'll sell my front mount and use that money to buy a meth kit. Then get my 16g back and run 30psi til redline. Sounds like a plan to me!

CVD
06-13-2009, 06:51 PM
I had piping that short in the Colt when I had no intercooler. I didn't notice significantly slower spool when I added a sidemount IC in the stock DSM location.

FattyBoomBatty
06-14-2009, 11:09 AM
No intercooler would be nice.

goodhart
06-14-2009, 08:00 PM
IDK, this looks like an awesome idea to me, it looks like an old guy is doing it too which more than likely gives him no reason to lie about how welll it does or doesn't perform like a younger person might do. It limits the size of intercooler sure, but it's original, very well done, and as far as we know it performs well. This guy has made a whole bunch of cool shit right in his garage too I think its pretty cool what he's doing


I'm skeptical of anything that allows air to enter the engine bay without passing through the radiator. DSMs have cooling problems enough as it is.

I don't get it, he moved the intercooler, the radiator didn't move....



EDIT: more info I found on the IAT's



As posted earlier I got some data on the efficency of my intercooler. I have done some Research Diving in the past and was trained to collect scientific data for study. But I was not tought to interpret it. I do know that the data collected is not good data. there were to many inconsistancies to be accurate. All were done on a long highway on ramp and posted speed was not exceeded. But traffic made it difficult to repeat experiments and the low speed ranges are passed by so quickly it was difficult to lock the temps at the right time to get good readings. I did learn one thing. I need a cold air intake system.
The first test was acceleration and highway cruise no boost.
outsid air temp 76 Deg
mph - inlet temp - outlet temp
20 - 131 - 91
30 - 135 - 97
40 - 135 - 95
50 - 144 - 93
60 - 147 - 93
70 - 161 - 100

15lbs boost
mph - inlet temp - outlet temp
20 - 248 - 131
30 - xxx - xxx
40 - 262 - 138
50 - 257 - 134
60 - 302 - 159
70 - 331 - 174
These were averaged after several runs and I was so unhappy with the difficulty of getting acurate data that I forgot to test with the water sprayers on. I will do some testing again late at night when there is less traffic and I can get some more consistant data.
Also I was WRONG on the temp drop at idle. My data is collected in celcius and I have to convert to farenheit. My calculations were wrong the average temp is 10 above ambiant but will not go above that even idling for ten minutes.
I promised good or bad I would post the numbers so here they are. Tell me what you think!

Goat Blower
06-14-2009, 11:12 PM
This isn't exactly new, even on a DSM. Luckily my daily hooptie has a TMIC from the factory, it must be cool!

DoughtCom
06-15-2009, 12:02 AM
I'm having a hard time with this, it just gives the intake track a big piece of aluminum to heat soak. There's a reason Subaru guys go to FMIC when they start to make serious power (yeah I know, those two don't go well in the same sentence together), then again I also have an FMIC big enough to smuggle Mexicans across the border in.

CVD
06-15-2009, 08:48 AM
I don't get it, he moved the intercooler, the radiator didn't move....

You're forcing air into the engine bay behind the radiator and increasing the overall air pressure in the engine bay. This means less air will be going through the radiator.

Constant_Project21
06-15-2009, 09:52 AM
...then again I also have an FMIC big enough to smuggle Mexicans across the border in.

Bahahahahaa
Anyways I think it would be even better with a co2 spray kit on the tmic, that would be some serious air cooling.