View Full Version : My Pile Won't Start!
123abc
03-18-2009, 07:44 AM
This last monday, me and twack changed out my fuel pump for an evo 9 pump. While I was buttoning up the rear of the car, I gave twack the okay to extend my maf-t harness. Got that all done, hooked it up, and nothing. At that time I was getting no MAF signal on my logger. So, yesterday I shortened it back up, hooked it up, still nothing. Just cranks. The only time I get anything is when I unhook all the injector clips. Then it sputters a bit but still doesn't start. I'm getting plenty of fuel, the pump is working so I've ruled that out as a problem.
I would check the plugs, and 3 out of the 4 are soaked in gas. The car was running tip top up untill we did the fuel pump and extended the maft harness.
Anyone have any ideas? I spent 3 hours searching threads on tuners but can't find any case that was similar to mine. I let the car sit over night with the plugs out to dry so when I get off work today I'll fuck with it some more.
niterydr
03-18-2009, 07:54 AM
Sounds like the injectors are leaking/constantly on. Did any of the MAF wiring get crossed?
123abc
03-18-2009, 07:59 AM
Sounds like the injectors are leaking/constantly on. Did any of the MAF wiring get crossed?
It was messed up before, but I shortened it back up yesterday and I am getting a reading of .37 or something like that on the logger during cranking. After twack had extended it, I wouldn't get any maf reading. I had thought the injectors were to blame, but it doesn't make much sense because no body messed with them. Only thing we did was take the feed line off the rail to check to see the pump is working.
Another thing, I have messed with the translator trying to lean the shit out to get it started but it doesn't make a difference.
I have kracka's evo9 injectors on the way, you think that will fix it?
scheides
03-18-2009, 09:23 AM
Do you get any reading (in hz) on your logger? When my maf-t got wet a few times or it was hooked up wrong I would get like exactly 4hz no matter what I did. You should see something register while cranking.
Make sure your CAS is hooked up, maybe try swapping that out. They are sensitive. You sure somethign else isn't unplugged? The coilpack/igniter/etc?
123abc
03-18-2009, 06:17 PM
I have cop, i've tried my old coil pack and wires, the maf-t is fine, i read about 37 hz under cranking, 3% injector duty cycle, 27 something for a pulse width. I just put in Kracka's 560's today and it's doing the same damn thing.
The only thing is the translator's green led blinks sometimes.
Kracka
03-18-2009, 06:24 PM
What does the green LED mean?
123abc
03-18-2009, 07:18 PM
I have no idea what the green led means. The translator seems to be working as it always does. I've tried it with no rpm wire, trying to lean it way out on the dials, but no luck. I'm about to start doing some custom body work real soon...
Halon
03-18-2009, 07:38 PM
So it ran before. And all you did was swap in a new fuel pump, and messed with the MAFT wiring, and now it doesn't work?
Have you checked to make sure the MPI fuse isn't blown? Have you checked to make sure you didn't knock any connectors loose while doing any of this? Do you have good compression? Have you tried playing with the gas pedal while trying to start it? I believe if you hold the gas all the way down while turning it over, it should shut the injecors off, which may be useful if everythings all flooded. Do you have an extremely high coolant temperature reading on whatever logging application you have? Do you have a spare ECU you can swap in? Are you certain you are getting spark?
123abc
03-18-2009, 07:43 PM
So it ran before. And all you did was swap in a new fuel pump, and messed with the MAFT wiring, and now it doesn't work?
Have you checked to make sure the MPI fuse isn't blown? Have you checked to make sure you didn't knock any connectors loose while doing any of this? Do you have good compression? Have you tried playing with the gas pedal while trying to start it? I believe if you hold the gas all the way down while turning it over, it should shut the injecors off, which may be useful if everythings all flooded. Do you have an extremely high coolant temperature reading on whatever logging application you have? Do you have a spare ECU you can swap in? Are you certain you are getting spark?
Which one is the mpi fuse?
Yes I'm sure. I did a semi wire tuck myself and I know where each connector is. I've checked them 4 times each.
Yes, good compression. Always have.
I hold it to the floor, nothing.
Coolant temp reading is about right.
No spare ecu.
Thanks guys for trying to help me. Its too damn dark out right now to try anything though.
Halon
03-18-2009, 07:55 PM
mpi relay is basically located right on the battery. There are 3 fuese that are on one of the power cables that attaches right to the battery terminal. It's the one you typically pull when doing a compression test.
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