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Halon
02-16-2009, 10:48 AM
Anyone hear anything about some of this? I have a hard time decyfering what's BS and what's real in the news now a days, but this caught my eye. Interested to hear from those who are more in the loop with politics then I am. Looks like a hanful of states are trying to re-enforce the 10th amendment and get the Federal Government to back off a bit.
http://www.infowars.com/21-states-claiming-sovereignty/
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2009/02/11/state-sovereignty-bills/
polishmafia
02-16-2009, 11:08 AM
You are basically correct.
21 states now have passed resolutions - not bills - that reinforce the 10th amendment. Which basically says the states are soverign territories and in the end are able to make decisions for themselves.
The states are just reaffirming (and reminding) that the Federal government's power is restricted to specific parts detailed in the Constitution, and that all other govermental authority is in the state's hands.
SnoEclipse
02-16-2009, 12:30 PM
no, all other power resides in the PEOPLES hands with the exception of that listed in the constitution.
Political power flows from the people up through the various layers of government. Not the other way around.
1QUICK4
02-16-2009, 12:44 PM
no, all other power resides in the PEOPLES hands with the exception of that listed in the constitution.
Political power flows from the people up through the various layers of government. Not the other way around.
At least it used to.
polishmafia
02-16-2009, 01:16 PM
no, all other power resides in the PEOPLES hands with the exception of that listed in the constitution.
Political power flows from the people up through the various layers of government. Not the other way around.
I knew someone was going to get sand in their vagina in this thread.
Of course, the power is supposed to come from the people. So lets break this down (on a very high level here).
People -> City -> County -> State -> Federal
What Brandon was asking, which relates to what you posted, means that the Federal goverment can not overtake a State's authority when it comes to matters outside of the Constitution.
Do we really need to hash this out in detail?
FattyBoomBatty
02-16-2009, 01:27 PM
Yeah, used to is right.
BLaCk_1cE
02-16-2009, 06:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution#United_States_2
Interesting stuff. Its about time the states pulled that card. I mean hell, the states can dissolve from the union entirely if they can get majority vote. We are united states, that form a republic, not a republic split into states. I think its either New Hampshire or Vermont that has a group actively trying to make their state independent from the Federal government.
Halon
02-16-2009, 07:11 PM
I've heard Hawaii is trying to get out entirely. But again, just hear-say. Now a days I have no idea if what I hear is BS or True.
Thats because Hawaii was annexed. They could still be considered their own governmental body, just that they are too small and powerless to legitimately rise against the US government.
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