View Full Version : 1650cc injector and pump/e85 question
C3L1CA
01-24-2009, 11:29 PM
Most people must go way overboard on injectors at the mention of E85. Are you going for 1000hp?
You think you can make 1000hp with 4 1600's and e85? haha
I personally don't think 1600s are too crazy with e85. Looking at past logs I have been in the very high 70's to low 80's% with injector duty cycle flowing around the 60lb/min'ish with my turbo. I think my car idles pretty damn good on e85 and I like the fact if I ever upgraded a little bit my injectors could handle it. Hell if I wanted something that was idled perfectly, was good on gas mileage, comfy, easy to drive I'd just go get a nice buick.
sleepydsm
01-25-2009, 11:02 AM
I'm not too concerned about driveability. I'll get over it. I was planning on getting Rau's used FIC 1600's, but he never got back. I then was up in the air with 1350s vs 1650, and said Eff it. I know quite a few with "old style" 1600's (even though I'm skeptical about these Bluemax's really being "better") that say the idle is fine and 1600s are ok.
And no, I don't plan on making "1000 hp"
I'm sure I'll be ok with one pump, if I need another I'll just throw in a second walbro.
And if these injectors are really end up being horrible, worst case, I can always sell and get new ones.
sleepydsm
01-25-2009, 11:07 AM
1650's would support around 800 max crank horse at a base fuel pressure of 45 psi.
lol "837 HP @ 43.5psi for turbo-charged applications 80% IDC" So I'll be like at 40% duty cycle.
Actually more maybe since using ethanol correct?
My biggest concern was if I tried using pump gas with these. Where like 880s would be enough really.
Halon
01-25-2009, 11:28 AM
With the fact of using e85 and also the fact there the Blumax injectors, there shouldnt be any issues.
If you have a link to proof that the Bluemax injectors idle better and work better at low throttle, please show me the link. All I've heard is hype. Every vendor, including FIC, that I've asked this question to would not comment back.
turbotalon1g
01-25-2009, 11:31 AM
^True. I am also waiting for some real world proof.
turbotalon1g
01-25-2009, 11:33 AM
Most people must go way overboard on injectors at the mention of E85. Are you going for 1000hp?
So what should he use oh great one?
On a lighter note Kevin, you might want to copy my fuel pump setup.
(SEE ATTACHMENT) :bling::smoking:
FattyBoomBatty
01-25-2009, 03:01 PM
Right. Are those your hands? Did you fall into a puddle of bleach?
sleepydsm
01-25-2009, 03:15 PM
So what should he use oh great one?
On a lighter note Kevin, you might want to copy my fuel pump setup.
(SEE ATTACHMENT) :bling::smoking:
hahhaahaha
9guy9
01-25-2009, 06:59 PM
I got Bluemax 1650s today lol.
would you post a pic of the spray end of one?
I have the old 1600's, on E85 idle is ok, but cold start up is a long drawn out bitch of a process. I am anxious to find out if the bluemax injectors actually have a better spray pattern.
turbotalon1g
01-25-2009, 07:42 PM
Right. Are those your hands? Did you fall into a puddle of bleach?
I took the pic genius. :loser:
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