Roll Bar/Cage

[Halon]

Don't weld those 2 bars to the main hoop then.
From what I've seen on the websites that sell them, they looked like they were already welded on. If they aren't already welded on, then that's perfect.

135mph for an automatic, slicked, transbraked, perfectly geared, tubed old V8 might be in the 9s. While for most manual tranny imports it's in the 10s-11s.
For the most part, my car should be putting down numbers similar to a GT35R powered car. I plan to be running right around 30psi on E85. In your opinion, do you think I will be pushing the 135 mark?

Cages ruin an otherwise nice street car.
Noted, thanks

Do you plan on running at only rock falls? At cedar from my experience they're pretty lenient on the rules and I'd feel pretty safe saying you wouldn't need a cage.
How lenient? My setup "should" be able to get me into the 10's, though I'm sure with my inexperience it won't happen the first year.

criags old cage in his talon was a pre bent one it fit great I just put it in for him. It was a 8pt cage. he got it at his work and we do have a mitsu account there to get a good discount on parts.
Any pics? I'd love to hear a price quote on it.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

For the most part, my car should be putting down numbers similar to a GT35R powered car. I plan to be running right around 30psi on E85. In your opinion, do you think I will be pushing the 135 mark?


Very possible. Your setup is better than my wife's she goes 132mph at that boost level in winter street trim.

[Halon]

Well then I think I may just get an 8-point, but only install it as a 5-point. Then if/when I do break 135 and am getting harrassed for it, I'll have the rest of the pieces that I need to make it an 8.

Also, is your wifes full weight? That may come into account as my car is still very much full weight (p/s, a/c, full interior, stereo, power everything, sunroof). The only weight reduction done on the car is the front bumper is removed, the cruise control is removed, emissions removed, and CF Hood.

[TkrPerformance]

just pm craig and ask him for a price on it. he had it in 2 days at his store.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Well then I think I may just get an 8-point, but only install it as a 5-point. Then if/when I do break 135 and am getting harrassed for it, I'll have the rest of the pieces that I need to make it an 8.

Also, is your wifes full weight? That may come into account as my car is still very much full weight (p/s, a/c, full interior, stereo, power everything, sunroof). The only weight reduction done on the car is the front bumper is removed, the cruise control is removed, emissions removed, and CF Hood.

You need a 10 point at 135mph.

Her's isn't full wieght, but it's probably not too much lighter than yours. It's doesn't have A/C or ABS, and cruise was just removed but it has P/S, almost full leather interior, stereo, power windows, power seat belts, sunroof, stock hood. She was on the heavy ass stock wheels and snow tires, which added 50-60lbs over her 16" Rota's with summer tires.

[C3L1CA]

How lenient? My setup "should" be able to get me into the 10's, though I'm sure with my inexperience it won't happen the first year.

Last time I raced my bike there, another kid was running his R1 in the 10s all day in jeans and sneakers, you're supposed to have full leathers and a teather anything 120+ and 10.99 or quicker. Another guy I talked to said he ran a 9 second car down there with just a lap belt and the tech guys just laughed at him because it was still a stock suspension car scooting around all over the track.

I also think anything 135+ needs a 10pt cage, not just an 8pt.

[Halon]

I see. So then what is the purpose of an 8pt cage? Just added protection over a 5/6pt, but you're still limited to the same times/speeds as a 5/6pt?

[Halon]

Yep don't forget about the trap speed, I don't know if you'd ever dip into the 9's but the trap speed is a big factor to think about.

I'd also check out mean street, I'd guess they'd be as cheap if not cheaper than a pre bent cage. They quoted me 800ish for an 8pt in moly and TNT quoted me 1ksih for an 8pt in moly.

Do you plan on running at only rock falls? At cedar from my experience they're pretty lenient on the rules and I'd feel pretty safe saying you wouldn't need a cage.

Hey, were those prices you quoted only for installation, meaning you brought in a pre-made kit you already bought? Or was that for them to custom make it AND install it?

TnT is just minutes from my house, so I may have to give them a ring. That Mean Street isn't all that far either. Thanks for the recommendations

[C3L1CA]

I was looking at 8pts because it wouldn't take much more to make it into a 10pt if I ever went that fast. Plus it seems like it would add some rigidity to the chassis. I don't have a back seat anyways so it wouldn't interfere with that.

Mean street quoted me "An 8 point chromeoly roll bar will cost you $800.00 installed (parts & labor)." TNT was the same way that they custom build the cage to your car so it includes the installation and and the actual cage in the price. I'd personally take it to mean street as he's done some cages in some fast cars and seems to have really good prices.

[Halon]

I think I'll look into both of them. TnT is damn near next door to me and I've gone there a lot for parts. Never even thought about them doing cages. Looking at their site, they show that they've done some work for Brent Rau. If their work is good enough for him, I think it may just be good enough for me.