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123abc
07-01-2008, 09:46 PM
If setup right with some thought put into it, you could in theory put one of those setups into a DSM, hooked right up to the tranny. You could offset about 2 or 3 of those wheels on a shaft, hooked into a clutch and tranny setup. It would look like a rotary engine almost from the outside. The gas pedal would be hooked up to a speed controller, some how.

iceminion
07-01-2008, 11:49 PM
actually, doing this in a DSM would kinda be pointless, they dont look THAT good. Also, the AWD transmission/drivetrain is heavy and pointless.

From what I understand, you can delete the transmission and attach 1 electric motor to each wheel via axle or direct link, have a generator (rotating magnet motor attached to a large alternator.

Voltzilla is the megasquirt of electric cars, you would need to use one of those to drive the electric motor(s)

I personally would wait until this technology is more refined, the real high-output generators have only been around for a couple months, let gas go up to $5/gal plus higher heating bills in the winter, and i think we are going to have lots of do-it-yourselfers building these over the next couple years.

+1 to saving the earth, and my wallet

iceminion
07-01-2008, 11:50 PM
Oh, and Superbleeder, where is my trophy?

Matt D.
07-02-2008, 09:00 AM
Buy your rare earth metals while you can!

Supplies of Rare Earth Elements Exhausted By 2017
"While we bemoan the current oil crisis, I ran across an editorial that led me to research a more immediate threat. Ramped-up production of flat-panel displays means the material to make them will be 'extinct' by 2017. (http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0806/ref.shtml) This goes for other electronics as well. Quoting: 'The element gallium is in very short supply and the world may well run out of it in just a few years. Indium is threatened too, says Armin Reller, a materials chemist at Germany's University of Augsburg. He estimates that our planet's stock of indium will last no more than another decade. All the hafnium will be gone by 2017 also, and another twenty years will see the extinction of zinc. Even copper is an endangered item, since worldwide demand for it is likely to exceed available supplies by the end of the present century.' More links at the journal entry. (http://slashdot.org/~tomhudson/journal/206171)"

FattyBoomBatty
07-02-2008, 09:12 AM
Where do magnets come from? What powers the factories that shape said magnets? The earth, and coal or nuclear power, respectively.

You aren't taking things like that into account when you say it is "free energy" or what have you. Does it create enough torque to power a 3000lb car?

How much does the motor itself weigh? I know that magnets are metal, generally, and they are heavy bitches. Ever seen a 25hp electric motor? you need a forklift to pick it up. In a power-to-weight comparison, an internal combustion engine has so far always trumped electric power.

Kracka
07-02-2008, 09:17 AM
Lots of crazy non-sense "free/cheap energy" theories on this board lately. Maybe I'll build one of these after I'm done designing my hydrogen-powered shaver.

Matt D.
07-02-2008, 09:23 AM
Tin supplies will also be diminishing quickly with all the tin foil hats we'll be making for these people.

iceminion
07-02-2008, 01:01 PM
Tin supplies will also be diminishing quickly with all the tin foil hats we'll be making for these people.

...respond to this with insults, swearing and generally becoming upset.

...respond with insults, thanks

Where do magnets come from? What powers the factories that shape said magnets? The earth, and coal or nuclear power, respectively.

You aren't taking things like that into account when you say it is "free energy" or what have you. Does it create enough torque to power a 3000lb car?

How much does the motor itself weigh? I know that magnets are metal, generally, and they are heavy bitches. Ever seen a 25hp electric motor? you need a forklift to pick it up. In a power-to-weight comparison, an internal combustion engine has so far always trumped electric power.

First off, over unity is over unity, thats what makes it amazing. here is a high HP car with electric motors http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/honda_dualnote.html

Second, yes electric motors are heavy, but so are transmissions and battery packs

if I could have a car with a non-nuclear power source that would outlive me, that would cut down on my transportation expenses quite a bit.

If you have some personal vendetta against cutting edge/experimental technology, please dont post in this thread.

Matt D.
07-02-2008, 01:51 PM
If you have some personal vendetta against cutting edge/experimental technology, please dont post in this thread.
There's nothing wrong with cutting edge technology, but there is something wrong with people posting up every single thing found on the internet as the cure for what ails this world.

Shane@DBPerformance
07-02-2008, 02:12 PM
Bypass the electic meter outside your house for free electricity.