Water for gas

[bertrenolds5]

I was just informed of a set up that you run you car with mixed water to increase milage and and make you engine run cleaner. Does anyone have any input on this one? http://www.auto-facts.org/water4gas-scam.html

[Matt D.]

It uses electrolysis to convert water into hydrogen and oxygen (You know, H2O) and enters that into the intake. Yeah, it can help, but unless you've ever done electrolysis on your own you will quickly realize how hard and slow it is to get a usable amount of gas from the water.

[bertrenolds5]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Water-For-Gas_W0QQitemZ110259789808QQihZ001QQcategoryZ14932Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I wonder how often you have to add water and baking soda?And how efficient this setup is? http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1954/18e01fm3.th.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18e01fm3.jpg)

[Matt D.]

Buy it and let us know how it goes.

While you're at it, I have oceanfront property for sale in North Dakota.

[Kracka]

Buy it and let us know how it goes.

While you're at it, I have oceanfront property for sale in North Dakota.

How much?

[tpunx99GSX]

Buy it and let us know how it goes.

While you're at it, I have oceanfront property for sale in North Dakota.

It could be an oceanfront property if global warming (haha) melts the polar ice caps (hahaha) and thus flooding the US creating one of the worlds largest pool parties!!! :ring:

[merkzu]

I did some math on it, I'm not a chemist but it doesnt look good

I used the Punch HHO High-Output for an example ($300 HHO unit)

The Punch makes 72L of HHO per hour using 20 amps at 12 volts
HHO is 2/3 Hydrogen and 1/3 Oxygen, so 48L of Hydrogen
48L of Hydrogen is 550BTU
20amps at 12v for 1 hour is 240 watt-hours, or 819BTU

So you put in 819BTU and got 550BTU out of it - a waste, but it gets worse

The alternator that supplies the energy to the HHO unit is only 55% efficient, so it actually took 1489BTU from the motor

And then the motor is only 20% efficient, but lets say its a super high compression with a super efficient turbo and throw in some alien tech to make it 50% efficient. In that case it took 2978BTU of fuel to make the 1489BTU the alternator needed.

So in the end you have spend 2978BTU of fuel to make 550BTU of Hydrogen

:riped:

[xveganxcowboyx]

Pretty sure engines are 30-40% efficient depending on the design. Of course the point is still valid either way. Now if you had some wicked wind generators at home..........

[tpunx99GSX]

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html Its really too bad he passed away because honestly this would have been the greatest invention of the 21st century.

[merkzu]

wouldn't be suprised if he was killed by investors that got swindled