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jhaan_dude
03-02-2008, 12:35 PM
sorry 420 i will work on my posting...

as for the lucas stabalizer in turbocharged cars, it is a big no no... when it makes it to the turbo, it basically becomes crystalized by the heat and causes a film to stick to the bearings of the turbo which later makes the bearing fail..

the only reason i would use lucas is in a big "na" v6 or v8 because they need all the help they can get with upper cylinder lubrication...

but nobody has answered my real question yet...has anyone used the lucas "sythetic oil" that i was talking about?

DSM_421
03-02-2008, 12:59 PM
Good info to know, I will stay away from the lucas stabalizer. Thank god I never ended up running it last summer.

Kracka
03-02-2008, 01:31 PM
Edit - I never go past 3.5k miles on an oil change, amsoil or not.

You are just wasting your money.

DSM_421
03-02-2008, 01:46 PM
How long do you think you can legitally run AMSoil then? I replace the oil filter every oil change... and I never run an oil filter past 5k miles. So as long as I'm replacing that I might as well do the oil as well.

TheBlizzard
03-02-2008, 04:07 PM
Put it this way; I did a basic comparison with two oils in my GTP. First I ran Castrol Syntec with a WIX filter; and what I did was just set the factory reset to 100% and then took note of the miles, it went 5400 miles before it went to 0% and needed to be changed. I also reset the mileage averaging system at the same time; over the coarse of 5400 miles it got 23.3mpg.

Then I chaned the oil; used a new WIX filter but this time I used Amsoil Synthetic, the car went 7100 miles before it hit 0% and got 24.7mpg on the average. My driving styles didn't change either; I still beat the shit out of the car like I always do.

I am sure in both tests I could have went further with the oil but I just change it anyway. But I will note that neither oil showed much sign of break down when I changed it. And it was still at the exact full line when I changed it both times. So from the looks of it they were the same, but the numbers showed different in my case.

Kracka
03-02-2008, 08:16 PM
To be honest, the more I research Eneos the more leary I am to use it. The more I learn about this oil the more it seems like Royal Purple; great initial protection but junk after 1000 miles. Basically, this sounds like a race oil that needs to be replaced after every event. I will continue researching and make my final decision at a later date.

Kracka
03-02-2008, 08:20 PM
Put it this way; I did a basic comparison with two oils in my GTP. First I ran Castrol Syntec with a WIX filter; and what I did was just set the factory reset to 100% and then took note of the miles, it went 5400 miles before it went to 0% and needed to be changed. I also reset the mileage averaging system at the same time; over the coarse of 5400 miles it got 23.3mpg.

Then I chaned the oil; used a new WIX filter but this time I used Amsoil Synthetic, the car went 7100 miles before it hit 0% and got 24.7mpg on the average. My driving styles didn't change either; I still beat the shit out of the car like I always do.

I am sure in both tests I could have went further with the oil but I just change it anyway. But I will note that neither oil showed much sign of break down when I changed it. And it was still at the exact full line when I changed it both times. So from the looks of it they were the same, but the numbers showed different in my case.

Craig, I doubt that computer on your GTP has any type of true oil analysis capabilities. My guess is that it calculates the oil life left based off of time, engine RPM, ambient temp, engine temp, and throttle position. The Amsoil lasting longer and getting better MPG leads me to believe the car was either driven easier (even if you didn't knowingly do it) or the ambient temp was more moderate (not really cold or really hot). I am not arguing with you here because I know that Amsoil does make a good product and it always performs very well in tests and comparisons.

Kracka
03-02-2008, 11:38 PM
has anybody tried the lucas oil turbo motor oil?!?!?

From all the reading and researching I have been doing lately regarding oils and lubricants has taught me something; Lucas products, especially their gear lubes, suck major donkey balls and you'd seriously be better off with the cheap no-name generics that come in 5 gallon pails.

jhaan_dude
03-02-2008, 11:39 PM
to answer 420s question...its unknown how long amsoil will last...

i believe that there was a thread here that talked about a test done with amsoil and mobil clean 3k..

the amsoil was put in a brand new camaro and has never had an oil change since 2002 and has 40k+ on it, and they tested the oil every 1k to make sure it was "lubricating"...

personally i run the 25k oil and filter from amsoil and my car love it...actually my fionces pt cruiser (pussy and tits) :)

Kracka
03-02-2008, 11:41 PM
the amsoil was put in a brand new camaro and has never had an oil change since 2002 and has 40k+ on it, and they tested the oil every 1k to make sure it was "lubricating"...

Unless there were two very similar tests done, I believe you are thinking of the test with Mobil 1 that was run in a Camaro for 25k+ miles and the oil was still showing signs of having life left in it after being analyzed.

Also, you mention Mobil Clean 3k, its actually Mobil Clean 5000 which is a mediocre conventional oil; not a bad oil, but there are better conventional alternatives available.

Not trying to nitpick at you, I just want to make sure the info in this thread is at least semi-accurate :)