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Super Bleeder!!
12-23-2008, 04:12 PM
Wheelhop, do you work for BEP?

wheelhop
12-23-2008, 04:13 PM
No. Do you work for FP? I'm eliminating my BEP turbine housing this season for a divided runner manifold with the stock holset turbine housing. I would like to see what it does. So far I'm happy that the turbo has done what a 20g can do. I'd like to see how much more flow per psi I can extract. . .

To me it appears you are attaching BEP to BW in the same manner.



I just don't see the relevance when comparing a Holset to a BW simply because one company makes aftermarket housings for both.

OK ??? So you're getting it. I'm using the same attachment to BW. But we don't look down on BW do we, though the attachment is the same, correct?

I'm saying Holset, BW and garrett are the same thing: turbo brands sold by a vendor that had poor success with garrett turbos. ???

WTF would you all do if BEP started selling gt turbos? Regardless, the hx40 spools as fast as the gt3076r and has at least 100whp more potential. The hx40 spools faster than the gt35r and flows at least the same perhaps a little more. BEP or not.

I just don't want to see this sh!t abotu holsets are "bad seads" because they are BEP turbos. BEP can be lousy or not. That doesn't affect the performance of BW turbos, Holset turbos, or Garrett turbos. Their housings may clamp up one turbine wheel but what does that have to do with another? Different aerodynamic tech is involved. But I CAN see someone avoiding holset turbos because they want a bolt on and the only option is the bep turbine housing and after hearing the first part of this thread I wouldn't blame them. But as I mentioned, the information was by guys that don't really know anything about holset turbos in bep housings. . .

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
12-23-2008, 04:14 PM
Wheelhop, do you work for BEP?

Wheelhop, are you best friends with BEP?

Shane@DBPerformance
12-23-2008, 04:20 PM
Does the HX40 make more power and spool faster than an SC61? How much do they cost? Or is an HX35/HX40 hybrid a closer comparision? Or is the HX40 too small?

Kracka
12-23-2008, 04:21 PM
No. Do you work for FP?
LOL, I see you're getting the hang of this board.

Halon
12-23-2008, 04:27 PM
I'm using the same attachment to BW. But we don't look down on BW do we, though the attachment is the same, correct?

I didn't compare a holset to a BW. I'm saying they are the same thing: turbo brands sold by a vendor that had poor success with garrett turbos. ???

I don't look down on either of them. Never once did I say I was against either of them.

I just don't think the success/failure of one turbo is a valid arguement for judging the success/failure of a completely different turbo designed by completely different companies (ie: Holset's are good because so and so run BW's). That's all I'm saying. Run what you want.

wheelhop
12-23-2008, 04:29 PM
YESS!!! thank you! You more than get it!

Does the HX40 make more power and spool faster than an SC61? How much do they cost? Or is an HX35/HX40 hybrid a closer comparision? Or is the HX40 too small?
Well, the .63 a/r scm 61 with the t350 turbine wheel spool spools about 400rpms faster (based on my experience) as the 60mm compressor hx40 in the BEP .55 a/r turbine housing. You see what the hx40 in the .55a/r turbine housing can do. What cam the scm6152 do?

The scm6176 is a better choice to match that power level, no doubt. But the spool speed is several hundred rpms later than the scm6152.

The the scm61 has the 56 trim gt35r compressor map. great compressor, but the 69lb/min hx40 pro compressor hasn't even been very hard pushed yet.

LOL, this (http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=269897&postcount=33) is the second time he's done that.

Halon
12-23-2008, 04:38 PM
I give up.

wheelhop
12-23-2008, 04:48 PM
Spoon feeding again:

"Holset turbos suck because bep sold a garrett turbo that sucks. (http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=222335#post222335)"

I just don't think the success/failure of one turbo is a valid arguement for judging the success/failure of a completely different turbo designed by completely different companies (ie: Holset's are good because so and so run BW's). That's all I'm saying. Run what you want.

I_just_don't_want_someone_to_think_that_holsets_su ck_because_BEP_sold_them_or_because_for_a_bolt_on_ you_have_to_use_the_bep_housing. BEP doesn't build holsets and holsets work well in the bep housing. Simple.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
12-23-2008, 04:48 PM
Poop-in-Your-Eye Power turbos!