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92EvilTalon
11-02-2006, 03:52 PM
yea, thats it *rolleyes*

What am I wrong. If so please tell....
Super Bleeder!!
11-02-2006, 04:06 PM
you're honestly going to say that evo's (evo 9s to be exact) are fast because they have the ability to alter their cam timing?
92EvilTalon
11-02-2006, 04:49 PM
No I did not say that mostly...I was talking about it. The Evo's are fast because of the aftermarket base over here and back in Japan. Besides the 4g63 is a very nice engine. Its not great or godly but nice. But then again...I don't know the real facts on why they took a short time to get in the low times.
Super Bleeder!!
11-02-2006, 05:00 PM
How are you and john even related? IT boggles my MIND!
niterydr
11-02-2006, 05:04 PM
How are you and john even related? IT boggles my MIND!

LMAO!!!

My nomination for post of the year.
niterydr
11-02-2006, 05:06 PM
So why is it big news when a 3S runs a 9, and that same number hardly garners a yawn in the DSM crowd? :D Oh yeah, there twelve times as many DSM's running 9's or better compared to the 3S crowd. ;)

18 times as many ;).
Swifty1638
11-02-2006, 07:50 PM
I dunno..the 4g63 is voted in the top 10 motors of all time, next to the 2jz, and the rb26..

-A. Swift
Shane@DBPerformance
11-02-2006, 08:27 PM
The 4G63 is a great motor hands down.

Most of the fast Evos do not have MIVEC. MIVEC just came out with the 9s, and there weren't even any aftermarket cams available for it until just very recently.

The 3s isn't that expensive, so I don't that has held it back at all. The MKIV Supra isn't cheap. The motor and drivetrain have held it back. It requires more work to get farther, which Josh has been doing.
niterydr
11-02-2006, 08:57 PM
The 4G63 is a great motor hands down.

Most of the fast Evos do not have MIVEC. MIVEC just came out with the 9s, and there weren't even any aftermarket cams available for it until just very recently.

The 3s isn't that expensive, so I don't that has held it back at all. The MKIV Supra isn't cheap. The motor and drivetrain have held it back. It requires more work to get farther, which Josh has been doing.

The weight is a huge issue, so are some major drivetrain issues. Things are getting better for the market, only time will tell where it walls again.
Kracka
11-02-2006, 09:19 PM
18 times as many ;).
Keep in mind that far more DSM's were produced than 3/S's allowing a much larger enthusiast base therefore more opportunities to go fast. I like both cars, nothing against either, I am just saying that statistics do play a role here.