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Goat Blower
10-31-2006, 03:52 PM
You could remark your 2.0 gears, they'd be exactly half a tooth clockwise from the original marks. Like Vicious, I bought the 2.4 gears, timing is just not something I'd do half-assed.

Super Bleeder!!
10-31-2006, 04:05 PM
Just mark them like this. Yes i know they arent the stock gears but who cares? The marks line up the same way.

Outlaw1
10-31-2006, 04:31 PM
Is there a huge cylinder head flow difference between 3 angle vs. 5 angle valve seats....? Not so much.

I've spent countless hours on SuperFlows, from the old tube style pressure readers, to the new "touch one button" setups playing with all kinds of cylinder head setups. I've only seen some minor gains here and there, typically in the low lift numbers with different seat angles, including radius'd exaust valve heads flowing them at 25 and 28 inches of water. I know some guys that would pay big bucks if you could get them an additional 7cfm's out of their heads. :D

I reread that and it sounded like I don't condone 5 angle seats. If you have the cutters, by all means multi-angle cut the seats, backcut your intake valves and radius your exaust valve, but don't expect huge gains. Put your trust into someone who will make sure you have a good set of guides and knows how your seat width will work with your particular combination. And lastly, lap the damn things in. They only have to touch them for a second to see where the valve hits the seat and it saves the hassle of getting an uneven seat or valve face because the cutter chattered the seat. Even with a Sunnen automated cutter you can still get crappy seats. The machine work is only as good as the guy sending it out the door.

1ViciousGSX
10-31-2006, 07:01 PM
Just mark them like this. Yes i know they arent the stock gears but who cares? The marks line up the same way.
Damn, homie's got a gear drive set-up. ;)

If I remember correctly the difference is about 4.5 deg of cam timing in either direction. Ask anybody who's done building and/or tuning and they will tell you 4.5 deg is alot. Do it right. You'll spend many times the cost of the gears trying to get back that power difference.

Super Bleeder!!
11-01-2006, 12:21 AM
shane, mo and cher all made some pretty respectable power with remarked STOCK CAM GEARS friend ;)

Shane@DBPerformance
11-01-2006, 04:55 AM
This thread is great.

TalonFiero
11-01-2006, 07:42 AM
I remarked my timing gears, I bought a 2.4 timing gear from mitsu to overlay on the stock 2.0 gears like forever ago. I have no idea where my 2.4 gear ended up, I know its floated around the community for remarking stockers. No problems here, pretty simple modification.

Jim

CDeutsch
11-01-2006, 09:08 AM
I have OEM 2.4 gears you can buy/rent. PM me if interested.

$10 per gear (I paid $17.14 and $18.20 excluding tax and shipping)

I ended up marking a set of AEM adjustables.

Headwerks did my machine work to the bottom end and so far it's taken 10,000 plus miles of my amateur assembly and tuning abuse. lol

They too recommend OEM main bearings unless I wanted to align hone the mains. I'm using all OEM bearings, Eagle rods, and Ross pistons.

1ViciousGSX
11-01-2006, 08:03 PM
shane, mo and cher all made some pretty respectable power with remarked STOCK CAM GEARS friend ;)
I seriously doubt that. Do you understand where the problem is in running the 2.0L gears on a 2.4L block?

TalonFiero
11-02-2006, 05:41 PM
I seriously doubt that. Do you understand where the problem is in running the 2.0L gears on a 2.4L block?

Mike what are you saying? Shane, Cher, Mo, and myself all overlaid a stock 2.4 cam gear on top of a stock 2.0 cam gear and remarked the timing marks. Pretty simple and widely done, back when I did the 2.4 swap I don't think there were 2.4 cam gears available other than stock.

Jim