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blageo23
10-29-2006, 10:25 PM
Ive thought about it alot more and I think right now I am going to scrap the head project. Right now I just want my car up and running so I can actually drive it.
Will the stock head be ok with a 2.4? The head was just rebuilt.

JET
10-29-2006, 10:29 PM
Yeah, just toss the cams in it and probably springs/retainers. All that will transfer into a new head too.

v8klla
10-30-2006, 10:46 AM
That head will work, you will need the dohc 2.4l cam gears and timing belt though. I sent you a pm about the parts as well.

Oh, and in case you didn't already know when it comes to 4g63/4g64 engine building we have made 686whp on a 4g64 and ran 11.08 @ 134.77 on a stroker 4g63 running 25 psi on E85. Proven results speak for themselves...

Chris

niterydr
10-30-2006, 12:30 PM
I will be doing the engine build myself. After taking the class at school it brought up my confidence a bit to do it myself AGAIN. Maybe this one will make it past the 1000 mile mark! Thanks for the advise.
Josh, and Chris as Im doing prices right now could you send me prices on the listed parts above at your convenience. That would be great!

Mike-What parts are you looking for?
King bearings, $85/set, any size you need. This is for Mains and rods.
Wiesco Pistons.
Part number K564M87. This is the 4g64 piston. .020" overbore. 8.5-8.7 comp ratio. Standard pin (you will be fine with a stock piston pin for the power levels you are looking for, upgraded pins can be purchased for around $9 a piece). LSE Performance price $449.99 plus tax.
Eagle rods.
Part number: CRS5900MA3D. This is the 6 bolt 4g63 standard length rod.
LSE Performance price $309.99 plus tax.

ARP Head studs. 207-4201
6 bolt un-cut. $94.99 Complete set with studs, nuts, washers, and arp moly lube.
ARP Main studs. 207-5401
ARP Mains. $64.99. Complete set with Studs, nuts, washers, and arp moly lube.

Now on your motor, I would recommend to switch to a 4g63 cap style or to "pin" the caps. If you have any more questions feel free to call or pm. Finally you can re-degree your stock cam gears or purchase new ones from a DOHC 2.4 7 bolt galant. Last time I checked I think the cam gears were $40ish each? I don't remember, Jet would.

niterydr
10-30-2006, 12:30 PM
That head will work, you will need the dohc 2.4l cam gears and timing belt though. I sent you a pm about the parts as well.

Oh, and in case you didn't already know when it comes to 4g63/4g64 engine building we have made 686whp on a 4g64 and ran 11.08 @ 134.77 on a stroker 4g63 running 25 psi on E85. Proven results speak for themselves...

Chris

You have a pm regarding "proof".

Pushit2.0
10-30-2006, 12:41 PM
The 1g head should work just fine, head work if done right will help later for sure, I would deck the head and have a valve job done to start. Also I would buy ARP mains and have the block line honed, because the 6bolt 2.4s use individual main caps, the 7bolt 2.4 has a main girdle and stock main bolts and a line hone would be good for most applications with a main girdle.

~John

blageo23
10-30-2006, 03:03 PM
Thank you guys for the Prices!Those are the parts I was looking for.

The head I have now has like 1000 miles on it, Got a 3 angle valve job, valve seals, one new valve and I got it decked.

I have heard a little bit about the "pin" for the caps, Could you tell me what that is. Also if I ask the machine shop to do it will they know what im talking about?

Also whats a good machine shop for DSMs? I brought my head to Motors By Gosh and I was happy with the service I got. But is there any other place. LSE and MAP where do you bring yours?

niterydr
10-30-2006, 03:39 PM
The pinning is something we do and unfortunally is only available thru us. It involves making sure that the main caps can't move. Something needed on the HIGH HP items. (good safety item for someone that spares no expense on machine work).
Another item that is available only thru us is the turned down balance shaft. I did a HUGE batch so they are available at $60. We have the counter weights machine off. This gives you the lightness and the rear bearing support, best of both worlds!

I've used Motor's by Gosh before, they do pretty good work. John is a good guy. I heard he went to the Carquest in Ramsey,but might be re-starting his shop in Forest Lake now?
I have a few other sources that I wish to not disclose at this time.

The performance gains on a 3 vs 5 angle valve job are noticeable but usually not worth the additional port work required to make it worth while. As long as you have good quality valve seals, proper valve stem and valve guide install heights, and the head is flat, I would run with it. The DSM head flows VERY well for an oem product.

Jakey
10-30-2006, 05:52 PM
The pinning is something we do and unfortunally is only available thru us. It involves making sure that the main caps can't move. Something needed on the HIGH HP items. (good safety item for someone that spares no expense on machine work).

What's the difference between the LSE process and Quinn Whipple's CRCO process?
http://www.crco.com/

Mike, personally, if you want to dig deep into the main cap issue, I would drop Kevin Kwiatkowski an e-mail:
http://www.kigglyracing.com/Main_Girdle.htm
What are you going to run for a turbo?

niterydr
10-30-2006, 06:21 PM
What's the difference between the LSE process and Quinn Whipple's CRCO process?
http://www.crco.com/

Mike, personally, if you want to dig deep into the main cap issue, I would drop Kevin Kwiatkowski an e-mail:
http://www.kigglyracing.com/Main_Girdle.htm
What are you going to run for a turbo?

Very similar process, we just have had our own set of bushing made up with slightly different tolerances.
The kiggly main girdle solution looks interesting, I've just never seen it first hand.