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Black97civic
05-05-2006, 03:02 PM
I'm not sure where the link is, but for 100 mpg i'd be willing to drop a few hundred bucks.
The problem is where does the electricity come from to split the water into hydrogen. You electric bills are gonna go up while your gas station costs go down.
Thor06
05-05-2006, 04:31 PM
Good point, I didn't bring that up. There is an electrolyte. Some electrolytes are just water & sodium.
Read this...
http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/watercar/h20car2.htmI know salts dissolved in water makes an electrolyte, but the auction says that it doesnt need an electrolyte. No electrolyte, no conductivity, no hydrogen.
This whole thread was good for a laugh, but this is the best!!!
but he re-used the water that didn't burn and re-cycled it into the tank.
Our education system has gone down the shitter. Since when does water burn??
Here is an bit from his Ebay ad:
Also there is no secret calculations to get multiple units to work on your car. I will not help you , it will help you burn out your alternator is what it will do and any gains you would have seen will be eaten up in load on the alternators , now there is a way to get around it and this only works in electrolysis, you get the same output if you say use 22.5 watts or 225 watts . You can use a dc to dc converter and run the unit at 1.5 volts ( min is 1.2 volts ) and 15 amps or you can run it at 12 volts at 15 amps , the output will be the same. If you use a dc to dc converter to do the job , then you could in reality run more units. Most people barely have room for one and do not want to maintain more than one , it would be a hassle and hardly worth it as you would still not see much more in gains and still need to run on gasoline or diesel.
If you admit that the amount of gains will be eaten up by the alternator by hooking up multiple units, how would it be much different than running one unit?
Also, it holds one quart of water. How much hydrogen do you think you are going to get from one quart of water? This is another marketing gimmick praying on people that already pay too much for fuel. I know a guy that swore up and down his platinum injection doo hicky made his gas mileage much better. He bought those vials of "platinum" for quite a while until he realized that it wasn't actually doing anything. A lot of these things have a placebo effect. You think it is doing something, you pay attention more and you are a little easier on the gas pedal.
Gravy
05-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Research time!!!
I'll post up the site when i find it, but i don't know if i'll find the link. You don't "Burn" the water, but water is a byproduct of the process. That's why you have to ceramic coat your engine internals.
Gravy
05-05-2006, 05:24 PM
This whole thread was good for a laugh, but this is the best!!!
Our education system has gone down the shitter. Since when does water burn??
I must agree, source and quote. Read up on stuff before you insult. I've seen a working version of the PURE water car in person. It's something else.
http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/feb2/carplans_doc.htm
Q: What is the environmental impact that my vehicle will have?
A: It will be producing H20 steam (water vapor) and unburnt O2 (Oxygen). Hence, it will be cleaning the environment, rather than dumping nauseous toxins into it. Plus you will be helping to save our dwindling supply of atmospheric oxygen. Any excess vapor in the reaction becomes either steam or oxygen. You can also expect to be receiving more than casual interest from those around you.
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The thing is, you can use one small system or one large system, use the same energy and get more gas. You presurise the gases and release them as needed to accelerate the car. It's a real piece of work, the only thing is you need to do a bit up upgrading on the car, larger alternator, custom fab an electical system so you can increas and decrease the amount of presure released from the tank to help the vehicle go when you step on the gas. Carberated cars work better, FI takes a little more work, but can be done.
Matt D.
05-05-2006, 06:33 PM
but water is a byproduct of the process.
Water is also a byproduct of burning hydrocarbons, aka gasoline.
Gravy
05-05-2006, 07:23 PM
True, but in a gas vehicle you don't want the water in there. So with the pure water set up you need to use stainless steel or ceramic coat anything that would rust.
But, you do know i'm talking about a 100% water car, no gas used, right?:confused:
1ViciousGSX
05-05-2006, 08:03 PM
Snake oil anyone?
Onefast99gsx
05-05-2006, 09:32 PM
What I should be getting in the mail in a day or two isn't a pure 100% water run car product. It's to give extra mpg. You still run normal gasoline. Also, you don't inject the water in it's H2O state as such like water injection. Read up. It goes through a process of electrolysis. You separate the H2 from the O (oxy). I'd be skeptical too, however I actually have done this way back in 10th grade science class. It wasn't hard at all. We then ignited the H2. We all know H2 is very flammable (Hindenburg blimp). There is no question whether it will work or not. The question is how much H2 it will generate per minute.
I promise I will post back once I get it hooked up.
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It's hard to believe that we drink something that has a gas that's very flammable in it.
True, but in a gas vehicle you don't want the water in there. So with the pure water set up you need to use stainless steel or ceramic coat anything that would rust.
But, you do know i'm talking about a 100% water car, no gas used, right?:confused:
Alright, before you tell someone else to do research, you should do some yourself. There is no "water car" it is called a hydrogen powered car. The main by product is water. It does not burn water. Volvo was one of the innovators back when you were probably in diapers. You also do not fill the car up with water, you fill it up with hydrogen, which is stored in a fuel cell.
The problem is that it takes a lot of energy to create hydrogen and you end up with a costly fuel that is difficult to store. It would be great if they could figure out the bugs though. It is the energy system I would like to see succeed the most. Now go do some research and quit wasting our time with gimmicks.
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