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Onefast99gsx
05-03-2006, 07:52 PM
I just purchased this today. This particular one is over $175 now on ebay but every few days or so he'll have a buy it now for $99 on one. If you don't know what they are, it's a device that splits water into H2 + O and you inject it into your car. It's a process called electrolysis. It does work! Way back in school we did an experiement with it. I've done alot of research over the past 2 weeks and i've found sites on the net with plans. The best are the ones that use a PWM voltage signal. I'm not sure what this one is. My plan is to reverse engineer it and possibly make it better to generate more H2. They are selling like hotcakes and he has great feedback on them. Do a search on ebay for Hydrogen Generator. This particular ones seems to be the best one. I'll post back on my success with it. I'll be happy with anything between 2 - 5 mpg extra, but would be really happy with more. I ordered it because the winning bid price keeps going up. A few days ago they were in the $150 range, now they are in the $180 range. Watch for the Buy it now ones that appear. I got lucky and got for $99

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Save-Fuel-Gas_W0QQitemZ9720393943QQcategoryZ294QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Gravy
05-03-2006, 08:22 PM
You can build a car that runs soly on this set up. HOWEVER, you do need to prep a 100$ water car. Running a small amount shouldn't hurt you, but i've wanted to install one on a vehicle and try it.

Let me know how it goes, interested to see how it works out for you. Post any difference in Accel//0-6, mpg increase. I'm interested to see if i should build my own, or get some of these bad boys.

Pimpin Dsmstyle
05-03-2006, 08:23 PM
Hmm.. wouldn't take long to gain back your money if it turns out to work. I don't know if it would be worth 2mpg so much as it would if it was 5mpg. You would probably gain your moneys worth back in 1-2 months if it was 5mpg + !

Onefast99gsx
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
Yes, I will definately post back. My daily is a '97 Grand AM Quad 4, 5 speed. I get anywhere from 25 to 29 mpg, depending on riding habits. I've never gotten more than that. This system WILL work. I'll just have to see how much. Any gain is worth it to me. It was only $135 total shipped. Like I said, alot of the success of it depends on the power supply. The plate design inside plays a part too. Your goal is to generate the H2 as fast as possible. I'm not sure how it all works with the o2 sensor. Ultimately when you inject the H2, you want the ECU to back off the fuel supply.

Keeps ya's posted...

FattyBoomBatty
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
why not make it yourself? looks pretty easy. and it also sounds like a gimmic, but maybe it's not.

Thor06
05-03-2006, 09:27 PM
it also sounds like a gimmicThats what I was thinking. How can they split the molecules of water without and electrolyte? Pure water itself doesnt conduct electricity so I dont see how electrolysis can work. Your money, your call. Definately post back, I'm very interested to see if it works.

Onefast99gsx
05-03-2006, 09:31 PM
Well I do plan on making my own, I guess I just wanted to buy one from this guy before the prices got too out of hand and just improve upon it. That way I at least got something going while i'm in the process of redesign. Making Hydrogen is easy. Actually, you can make it just by sticking an alum can in a water & lye solution.

And Yes, you could make this system produce much, much more with a larger unit and a $100 shit box car. I'm just gonna start small. If I think too big right away, nothing will ever get built.

Onefast99gsx
05-03-2006, 09:33 PM
Thats what I was thinking. How can they split the molecules of water without and electrolyte? Pure water itself doesnt conduct electricity so I dont see how electrolysis can work. Your money, your call. Definately post back, I'm very interested to see if it works.

Good point, I didn't bring that up. There is an electrolyte. Some electrolytes are just water & sodium.

Read this...

http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/watercar/h20car2.htm

Gravy
05-04-2006, 02:07 PM
I've seen a Geo gone full water get 95 mpg. And, that's full water, out of the tap and a dual re-use system. The guy filtered the water coming from the tank, released it in small amounts into the engine, just enough to run it, and after the burn efect, he ran it through another filter. He had horrible backpresure, but he re-used the water that didn't burn and re-cycled it into the tank.

I'm not sure where the link is, but for 100 mpg i'd be willing to drop a few hundred bucks.

Halon
05-04-2006, 09:48 PM
Kinda interesting! I'm curious to see how it works for you