1G DSM big brakes. Need to upgrade bad.

turbotalon1g · 10-05-2008

Ok guys, had a scary experience with my car last night not wanting to slow down thank god it was late at night on a lit highway and no one was around.

Anywho this has led me to start research ahead of time on Big brakes, any experiences/research on them? what have you found?

I have no clue, this is my first post/look regarding big brakes, but all i know it the 1g "big brakes" aren't cutting it for me.

I have EVO 8 wheels right now so they need to fit under them.

Thanks
Aaron

Speedfreak · 10-05-2008

Didn't you get a bunch of suggestions regarding "big brakes" within one of your other threads? In any case, I'd buy StopTech's, but the Bear kit is cheaper.

hippiekiller · 10-05-2008

Stoptech. Without a doubt I would buy them over Brembo. I have Brembo BBK on my mustang and Stoptech's on my Eclipse. The Stoptech kit is MUCH higher quality. You can swing over and check them both out any time.

Super Bleeder!! · 10-05-2008

Get ahold of the adapter brackets people are making to adapt C5/Fbody calipers.

turbotalon1g · 10-05-2008

^i heard about those.
From what i have read, the Baer's are still two pot, while maybe higher quality than the mitsu two pot, it still makes me nervous.

Stoptechs are a lot of money, but if i do this i don't want to get some crap buy right the first time.

Scheides car stopped awesome, i wouldn't mind that kind of stopping power.

Floppy anymore info on that?

hippiekiller · 10-05-2008

I personally have always felt the Baers are rather cheap myself. Basically they are the same thing that comes stock on the two piston mustang setups. PBR calipers I do believe are all they really are. I can say when I ditched those on my Mustang and switched to the Brembo's, I really wasn't impressed at first. Bled them a couple more times and then it was like a whole different car.

The one thing I really liked about the Stoptech kit was the fact that they come with the two piece rotors. They are so much lighter. I still have the Evo Brembos for the rear, mostly because I didn't want to shell out another 2k for the rears. I have less than a grand into all of this and honestly don't think I will ever have a problem stopping.

sleepydsm · 10-05-2008

I too would like info on the F-body/C5 caliper brackets.

**JET** · 10-06-2008

What type of problem did you have with it not stopping? It sounds like it might have been a problem boiling the fluid or something.

**Kracka** · 10-06-2008

Baer 13" Track Kit; I loved mine and the price is good.

Matt D. · 10-06-2008

Have you upgraded your pads and put in high quality fluid? I'd go that route before being convinced that you need bigger calipers and rotors.

MustGoFaster · 10-06-2008

I'm with Matt D. What pads are you running? Fluid? SS brake lines? 1G BB's aren't the best in the world, but you can make them effective.

I'll vouch for StopTech's as well. I drove a Stealth with them and they were awsome! I was able to really get on them hard a number of times and found it nice and easy to find the limit of traction (from 275 wide tries!).

b00stcreep21 · 10-06-2008

More pistons in your calipers aren't going to do as much as you would think... You'll see better results from upgrading fluid, a bigger rotor, and a more aggressive pad

Super Bleeder!! · 10-06-2008

the Baer kits do indeed use the older cobra/Fbody/C5 PBR caliper, as was stated above. You are essentially paying a lot of money for a the adapter bracket.

turbotalon1g · 10-06-2008

I see, i believe the pads are reds and they have felt great before.
I was doing a pull with a C6 and i think this might of been the second one, but slowing down from 120-130 sucked at about 75 i realized the pedal pressure was not there and i was already pulling up the e-brake a little, so i got off the pedal and back on it and it wasn't doing shit.
Still on stock lines. I have a rear set from agency power but they fucked up on the front set so i am trying to work with them on that, but i want to just get my money back and get a better kit.
Rotors are drilled and slotted, all brakes came with the car.

MustGoFaster · 10-06-2008

Was the pedal firm or on the floor? If it was on the floor it's fluid boiling, if it was firm that would be pad fade.

b00stcreep21 · 10-06-2008

DOT 4 fluid is your friend broham

MustGoFaster · 10-06-2008

After re-reading, you mention a lack of peddal pressure. Sounds like boiled fluid at this point.

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...fluid_1a.shtml

I run the Valvoline SynPower in my car, cheap and availabe in most Checker, AutoZone and Advanced Auto stores. NAPA stopped carrying it last I knew.

**Goat Blower** · 10-06-2008

You've actually got room for the AEM big brake rotors. Pretty much bolt right on and stop awesome, but I agree, it sounds like you boiled that cheap Pep Boys fluid in there.

turbotalon1g · 10-06-2008

^lol.
Thanks guys. The pedal didn't drop to the floor, but when i pushed the pedal there really wasn't a good stopping response.
I will change the fluid and see where that gets me.

Speedfreak · 10-06-2008

Change the fluid and do the SS lines.. you will probably be fine at that point(with good pads all around).