03-06-2008
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SLP
Drives: 10' Sierra Denali & 99' beatervette
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E85 set-ups
Just out of curiosity I am interested in hearing about other peoples E85 set-ups.
Here is my mods list on tuners: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/memb...ngy-75046.html
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: E85 set-ups
My last year setup:
PTE SCM50
1600's
single 255hp
DSMLink
366awhp on ~23psi on DynoDynamics
This year there are going to be a couple changes.
Last edited by Halon; 03-06-2008 at 02:05 PM..
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03-06-2008
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SLP
Drives: 10' Sierra Denali & 99' beatervette
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Re: E85 set-ups
What are this years changes for you? Sounds like a pretty good set-up, what compression ratio are you? On the msextra forums there are a couble of guys praising the high comp turbo e85 builds.
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
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Re: E85 set-ups
My setup is
2.0 wiseco/eagle combo at 8.3:1 (wish i would of done 9 but didnt think I was doing e85 at the time)
1600 injectors
dsmlink
crower 414 cams with dual springs and titanium reainers
SMIM
TD06H 20g
255 pump
Dynoed this setup only on 92 and was at 306 WHP with 19psi but now have 12psi more boost and more timing as well.
Any guesses at what gains I am probably seeing with that much more boost and a hair more timing?
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03-06-2008
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: E85 set-ups
Plans this year is a new turbo setup. and hopes to break 500hp on a Dyno Dynamics.
This is on a 2.0 Mahle/Eagle setup, 8.5:1 compressoin
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SLP
Drives: 10' Sierra Denali & 99' beatervette
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Re: E85 set-ups
500hp on a dyno dynamics is quite the feat! all the power to ya man.
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It was a auto get over it
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: rochester mn
Drives: something better then you
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Re: E85 set-ups
1000cc injectors
dsmlink
50trim turbo
255 fuel pump
smim
bc 272s
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03-06-2008
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Hates blue couplers.
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Re: E85 set-ups
You guys with 'Link/AFC's should post up your IDC's.
I haven't got mine running yet. But this is what I have.
850cc Injectors
DSMLink
FP18G
255lph
Hoping for ~23-25psi with a decent IDC(Hope it's not too high)
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03-06-2008
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: North Branch
Drives: 2004 Corvette M6 F45
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Re: E85 set-ups
Quote:
Originally Posted by User Name
You guys with 'Link/AFC's should post up your IDC's.
I haven't got mine running yet. But this is what I have.
850cc Injectors
DSMLink
FP18G
255lph
Hoping for ~23-25psi with a decent IDC(Hope it's not too high)
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I ran 880's on a fifty with e85 and 24psi and was at 87%.
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: E85 set-ups
ECU Chip
SC61
1600cc
HKS 272 w/ Crower springs
29psi 467awhp on dyno dynamics
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03-06-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Big Lake MN
Drives: 98 Eclipse GSX Auto
Posts: 1,516
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Re: E85 set-ups
DSMlink
scm61
Buit 2.0 8.8:1 cr
HKS 272
28psi (25 daily)
twin intank walbro 255's
FIC 850 injectors 99% duty 50 PSI base fuel pressure
481 dyno dynamics
Adding 150#(1600cc) injectors for this summer shooting for 500+ whp on dyno dynamocs
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: E85 set-ups
DSMlink
SCM61
Stock longblock, minus HG & studs.
1600cc
Never dyno'd
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03-06-2008
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Lady dsmer
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Idaho
Drives: 91 GSX, 91 TSi, 91 TSi
Posts: 257
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Re: E85 set-ups
Evo 3 16g
255 fuel pump
750 injectors, 19 psi and 80% IDC
60-1
Walbro 255
950 injectors 34 psi 90% IDC
Alot of people misconceive the injector part and go alot larger injectors then what is required.. which is fine since then you can later upgrade..
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03-06-2008
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MN
Drives: four tires
Posts: 1,608
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Re: E85 set-ups
Quote:
Originally Posted by carltalon
DSMlink
scm61
Buit 2.0 8.8:1 cr
HKS 272
28psi (25 daily)
twin intank walbro 255's
FIC 850 injectors 99% duty 50 PSI base fuel pressure
481 dyno dynamics
Adding 150#(1600cc) injectors for this summer shooting for 500+ whp on dyno dynamocs
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By "Adding", do you mean a second set of injectors, or swapping the 850's for 1600's?
I have 880's now and am thinking of adding a second set of injectors(680's that I have laying around). Wondering if it will be enough for the setup below.
AEM EMS
2.4l 9.0:1
GT3561
HKS 272's
Sheet metal intake mani
75mm Tbody
gigantic fmic(and 3" piping)
3.5" exhaust
etc. etc. etc(literally everything).
I'm thinking of twin 255hp, twin fuel lines, twin fuel rails, and a single Aeromotive FPR. One rail with 680's and the second with 880's. Want to get great gas mileage for daily driving and have the second set kick in when I want to go nuts. All on E85 or E98 depending on weekday or weekend etc.
I'd like over 500awhp at Shanes place. Doable?
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Big Lake MN
Drives: 98 Eclipse GSX Auto
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Re: E85 set-ups
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedfreak
By "Adding", do you mean a second set of injectors, or swapping the 850's for 1600's?
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I swaped the 850's for 1600's can't do staged injectors with Link.
I think 500+ on a 61 is very doable if your willing to push it over 30 PSI.
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It was a auto get over it
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: rochester mn
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Re: E85 set-ups
Wow this is alot more e85 users then i though
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03-07-2008
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SLP
Drives: 10' Sierra Denali & 99' beatervette
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Re: E85 set-ups
Agreed! I didnt think there were this many people on the boards running e85 either. I'm at 86% duty cycle with my 880's according to megasquirt, running 22psi and a s20g.
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03-07-2008
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
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Re: E85 set-ups
2.4l 8.8:1
1600's
SCM61
FMIC, 3" exhaust, etc
crower 415 cams
stock intake manifold
AEM EMS
single Bosch 044 pump with -08 feed and -06 return to a fuel cell
450 awhp at 27psi
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Last edited by JET; 03-07-2008 at 11:26 AM..
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03-07-2008
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flips McGee
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Re: E85 set-ups
This thread FTW. Keep the info flowing guys.
Shane, what kind of IDC do you see on your setup? Also, you have tuned many-an-evo on E85, care to post up any info about those?
Mo, Screw the twin rails/injectors, just do some 1600's. Less parts = more reliability. I think bigger cams might be a good option for you to, no?
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03-07-2008
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: E85 set-ups
On the Evos we almost always just throw in some 1000cc injectors when we goto E85 on the stock Evo 8 and Evo 9 turbos. I have done a bunch like that with the factory ECU and the AEM EMS. Power has been in the 320awhp to 380awhp ranges, all on stock turbos. I haven't done an Evo on E85 with bigger than an Evo 9 turbo yet. I did max out a single Walbro Evo fuel system on race gas on our dyno at 480awhp though, so I think pushing close to 400awhp on a single Walbro might be about it on E85.
I don't know the IDCs on my setup, my car is a poor example though, the big injectors are over compensating for too little fuel pump and fuel pressure dropping. My fuel system isn't up to par at all and I have seen drastically different A/F ratios without ever changing the tune. It did make within 5whp with the A/Fs in the low 12s versus richer than 10:1 on E85.
It probably wouldn't be a huge deal for Mo to goto a duel rail setup though. He has Rau's old intake manifold from his 2G AWD with everything on it to run a second rail. I think Mo might actually have a stock DSM rail and stock injectors clogging the holes right now. He also has an AEM that can do staged injection. The factory Mitsu ECUs can actually handle 1600cc injector better than the AEM, when we do 1600cc injs with the AEM EMS we pretty much always do a peak and hold injector driver box and they still can be hard to control at idle/low load. We run 1000cc injectors for primarys and 1600cc injectors for secondarys that start kicking in when the primarys reach 85% duty cycle on that white Evo.
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