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Old 05-06-2005   #1
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50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

i know this is probably an easy answer but i just got my car back from rick shindley - brand new from elite. Last night i picked it up and i didn't notice it at first but when my friend was behind me i saw alot of smoke coming from the exhaust everytime i shifted. When i came to a stop i revved the engine and alot of smoke came out. i know the 50 trim burns alot more oil and i have a test pipe so would that contribute to the smoke? should i just get used to it letting that much smoke go out of the car? i checked the oil pressure, level and fro leaks and didn't see any. all help on this is greatly aprreciated.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

i got the turbo from elite, brand new, in case anyone was confused, sorry.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

Your car should not smoke and a 50trim will not burn any more oil, turbos if they are in good condition dont burn oil.

You have any fuel managment? Could be running rich, or your valve seals are leaking or your rings are toast?? Do a compression test first.
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You check if the oil return line is too small or crimped?
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

Is the smoke under hard acceleration or after the cars been idling for a long period of time? What other changes were made to the car?
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

Are you absolutely sure it's coming out from the tail pipe itself or possibly did some oil get spilled onto the exhaust pipe itself and is just burning itself off. I find it hard to believe a brand new turbo would leak right out of the box. But no, as also said above, no turbo no matter the size will burn(consume) oil. If it did we would be adding gas and oil at the pumps.

Find a difinitive answer on where the oil might be coming from. Get underneath it. Hopefully it was just a spill.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

When my turbo was going it made lots of smoke when I shifted and at idle, not so much while cruising. I second checking the oil drain line, is it a modified dsm drain tube or custom built? If it is custom where did you get it or if you made it does it dip down below the point of entry on the oil pan? What color is the smoke?

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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

ok, i bought my oil drain pipe from buschur racing, the one where u have to modify your stock drain pipe and then use a rubber hose and the modified end for the 50 trim. When i put my first 50 trim in and it was blown so alot of oil got into the exhaust, but the thing is i drove an hour on highway, i was going fast the whole way home to, i'm not saying i was boosting the whole way home either, but everytime i shifted smoke came out, and i know for a fact it can't be the turbo. i don't see any leaks, do u think it's just the exhaust burning off the oil in it, i don't think it's possible because i drove the car alot last night. also, i have a brand new SS exhaust to, so i don't know if it's just the paint or whatever inside the exhaust getting burned out. i smelled oil, that's why i'm scared it might be something bad happening. i just don't know.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

i would love it if i could meet someone tonight to help me with this, i have no idea how to run a compression test or how to check for cracked seals or bad rings. i can meet you somewhere or whatever, i live in minnetonka, gimme ur phone number or reply to this if you can help me out tonight. i could really use it, it may be nothing, it may be something. any help for this would be awesome and greatly aprreciated. thanks brian - gimme a call if you can help - 612-730-5165
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

the smoke color is a darkish blue color at night, and during the day, hard to tell, i really couldn't tell if it was a black smoke, i'll check on that when i get home.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

along with this smoke problem, i was wondering about my Greddy Type S BOV, on my stock turbo it used to make a loud, high pitched noise, now with the 50 trim it's barely there and i was hoping i could adjust it to get that noise back, why isn't it loud anymore. thanks for the help
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

Blue Exhaust Smoke can be cause with an obstruction in the ex manifold, by an obstucted oil drain line, worn rings (blowby), valve gone bad, or damaged turbo.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

bov's aren't that noticable with biger turbos since it needs to spool to go off. I couldn't hear my blitz bov anymore after I put the 20g on my od car. I could probably do a compression test for you later tonight. Give me a call tonight after 8pm. My cell is 952-412-6087. I am guessing it is nothing motor related.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

Are we talking huge amounts of smoke or just little puffs when you shift? Maybe you're just running ungodly rich.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

Was the turbo off? Did oil get spilled down into the down pipe by chance? All that shit is right there in that same area.
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Is the BOV vented or routed back into the intake? If it is vented it will puff smoke between shifts because you are running rich.
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Re: 50 trim in - lot's of smoke from exhaust

right now i think that the smoke is getting less and less, i've been driving it around and it's not noticeable right now, all i really care about right now is the head, and the knocking/ticking noise. read the other thread about this if you can help me, ghettostyle i'll probably calling you later for that test, maybe you can take a look/drive with me and tell me what you think is going on with it. as for the smoke, i'll keep a look on it, the car is not leaking oil. all i'm really freaked out about right now is the lifters or the noise in the head. thanks for the help.
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along with this smoke problem, i was wondering about my Greddy Type S BOV, on my stock turbo it used to make a loud, high pitched noise, now with the 50 trim it's barely there and i was hoping i could adjust it to get that noise back, why isn't it loud anymore. thanks for the help
Blowoff valves are there for a reason, and making noise isn't one of them.
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I'm pretty sure its probably lifter tick. call me tonight, we can meet and i will tell you if it is.
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