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oil catch can install
What is the best way to install one on a evo.
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Re: oil catch can install
Is it not the same as DSM's?
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Re: oil catch can install
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Is it not the same as DSM's?
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I have never installed one so I don't know.
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Re: oil catch can install
The way I did mine deletes the pcv valve. Just screw a nipple into it's place, run a hose from that and the other valve cover breather port to the catch can. Then have a seperate hose come in through the top of your can and go to your intake pipe.
I'm on a blow-through setup though, so I don't know how this would apply to you.
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Re: oil catch can install
so like this
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Re: oil catch can install
Interesting. On the X the stock line runs from the valve cover to the intake. When I install my AMS intake (which doesn't come with the inlet) I was just going to run the line to the catch can. I didn't think there was a need for an outlet on the catch can. Need to research that.
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Re: oil catch can install
Ideally you're going to want 2 catch-cans for a proper install and to maintain vacuum inside your crankcase.
VC breather ---> MAP crankcase vent (optional but recomended) ---> catch can ---> intake pipe
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stock PCV ---> catch can ---> MAP crankcase vent ---> intake manifold
http://www.maperformance.com/map-cra...acuum-kit.html
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Re: oil catch can install
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Ideally you're going to want 2 catch-cans for a proper install and to maintain vacuum inside your crankcase.
VC breather ---> MAP crankcase vent (optional but recomended) ---> catch can ---> intake pipe
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stock PCV ---> catch can ---> MAP crankcase vent ---> intake manifold
http://www.maperformance.com/map-cra...acuum-kit.html
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You really need two of them.
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Re: oil catch can install
If you want to route both the breather and PCV to a can then yes, you need 2. If you do just one can though then pick which of the above two is more important to you and go that route. I personally have 1 can setup between the VC breather and intake pipe.
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: oil catch can install
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so like this
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Yes except you have the line going to the intake manifold, not where the pcv valve use to screw into the vc.
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Re: oil catch can install
Doing that, without any check-valves, is a terrible idea since you'll be pressurizing the catch-can AND crankcase during on-boost conditions!
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: oil catch can install
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Doing that, without any check-valves, is a terrible idea since you'll be pressurizing the catch-can AND crankcase during on-boost conditions!
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There's no pressure in there, only vaccum. I have the 3rd tube going to the intake pipe, before the turbo with an inline filter.
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Re: oil catch can install
How is there no pressure when you have a line run directly from the intake manifold?
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Re: oil catch can install
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How is there no pressure when you have a line run directly from the intake manifold?
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I meant to say he did it wrong, that line gets ran to the VC. I keep thinking DSM's where the pcv valve goes to the vc. Obviously that won't work hooked up to the intake manifold.
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Re: oil catch can install
Evos and DSMs have their VC breathers and PCV valves setup in the same way, just in different locations.
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Re: oil catch can install
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Originally Posted by Kracka
If you want to route both the breather and PCV to a can then yes, you need 2. If you do just one can though then pick which of the above two is more important to you and go that route. I personally have 1 can setup between the VC breather and intake pipe.
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Do you have a pic of it under your hood?
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Re: oil catch can install
Why not have both the VC outlets go into the intake pipe? The PCV going into the intake mani is pressurized under boost so it does nothing. If they both go into the intake pipe the turbo will be sucking air out from both VC locations at all times. Granted this will probably look messier, but oh well.
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Re: oil catch can install
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Why not have both the VC outlets go into the intake pipe? The PCV going into the intake mani is pressurized under boost so it does nothing. If they both go into the intake pipe the turbo will be sucking air out from both VC locations at all times. Granted this will probably look messier, but oh well.
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And all that blow by going into the turbo? no thanks.
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Re: oil catch can install
The 2 red hoses go to my catch can. Then the green hose goes to my intake tube. No pressure, only vacuum.
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And all that blow by going into the turbo? no thanks.
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Thats the point of a catch can dude, to catch the shit and suck out vapors. It's a better way of doing the same thing the factory did in my opinion.
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Re: oil catch can install
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And all that blow by going into the turbo? no thanks.
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Originally Posted by 123abc
Thats the point of a catch can dude, to catch the shit and suck out vapors. It's a better way of doing the same thing the factory did in my opinion.
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This. Just run both VC vents into a single catch can and then to the intake pipe.
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