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Old 10-22-2014   #1
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Disapointed in people

I talked to a few acquaintances and few posts on facebook but honestly so many people are Islamophobic its pathetic and disappointing on how the world has turned.

So I asked a question, If you had to leave your kid with someone for a day or two, would you feel more comfortable leaving him/her with a priest, or a Muslim?

What say you?


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Old 10-22-2014   #2
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Re: Disapointed in people

Oh boy..

Unless everyone decides to accept everyone they're some sort of "ist" or "ic". It's funny how the world has turned some type of way when in reality everything is being forced to change now. So realistically everything is being forced or attempted to change in the favor of these people.

One cannot point fingers when we get down to the nitty-gritty. Especially when the word Muslim comes into play.

This is not to say were not supposed to love our neighbor despite their personal decisions err...yeah.

I do not have a kid so I won't attempt to answer the question.

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Muslim, i trust my dad.

It's a religion he chose and I respect that. Such that he respects my atheist views. Hasn't changed who he is. Has been and still is a loving caring person just like when he was a Buddhist forced to convert to Christianity.

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Well you know I'll say Muslim.

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Old 10-23-2014   #5
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Re: Disapointed in people

Just like anything, there are always some nut jobs in every category. There are a lot of muslims so we are seeing more issues (just due to the number of muslims). The biggest problem is that these nut jobs are doing some heinous and public acts which brings bad publicity. This is very similar to the school shootings. A few maniacs make all the rest of the gun owners look bad.
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Old 10-23-2014   #6
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I'd leave my kids with people I trust, I don't really care what race or religion they are.
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I guess it has a lot to do with context. The "religion of peace" isn't so peaceful when you get right down to it.
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I guess it has a lot to do with context. The "religion of peace" isn't so peaceful when you get right down to it.
Neither is Catholicism. Most religions say to wipe out other religions.
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Neither is Catholicism. Most religions say to wipe out other religions.
I never claimed it was. In the same mention you won't read anywhere in the Bible to kill all infidels. Or things of this nature.
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I'd leave my kids with people I trust, I don't really care what race or religion they are.
That is right on for us too.
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Welcome back Enes, it's been too long!

I see where this thread is headed so I've moved it to the Politics section...
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I never claimed it was. In the same mention you won't read anywhere in the Bible to kill all infidels. Or things of this nature.
Looks like you need to read it more:

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

There are also references in Samuel to the same affect.
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Re: Disapointed in people

Every time someone quotes scripture as fact, im going to quote The Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit books as Fact.
All religions are riddled with blood of people that chose not to follow them. Its a ridiculous institution that has no place in modern and future societies. This is my opinion.
If your religion whatever it may be, causes you to hurt other people, or look down on them because they think differently, or causes you to molest little kids. YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
Anyways i could say more but i dont want to get tied into this.
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Re: Disapointed in people

I agree with Steve and Jets comments. Doesn't matter what or who you are as long as you are a decent person.

It's a point in time where some nut jobs are doing things which are not consistent with the religion of Islam (Muslims), but are doing what they are doing under the guise of a religion. Amongst the majority (moderate Muslims), the second a person commits these acts, they are out of bounds of the religion and we no longer consider them true Muslims.

Historically, this has happened to all/in all religions.

Fact is, there are somewhere between 1.2-1.5 billion Muslim's on earth. The majority are peace loving good people who actually follow the intentions of the reliogion, not look for some verbiage they can distort and use to their liking.

Like in most cases, people who decide they will condemn large groups for the acts of a few.. it comes from ignorance of facts.
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Every time someone quotes scripture as fact, im going to quote The Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit books as Fact.
All religions are riddled with blood of people that chose not to follow them. Its a ridiculous institution that has no place in modern and future societies. This is my opinion.
If your religion whatever it may be, causes you to hurt other people, or look down on them because they think differently, or causes you to molest little kids. YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
Anyways i could say more but i dont want to get tied into this.
Exactly my take also. I was raised Lutheran, but I have grown to not believe in organized religion. I agree with most of the morals they teach. You don't have to be religious to be a good person and just because you are religious does not make you a good person.

Unlike many religious people I do not hold their religion against them (my family is a prime example of this) nor do I push my views on them. Your beliefs are your own and it is propaganda if you try to push them on others.
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The majority of Muslims aren't terrorists, but the majority of terrorists are Muslim.
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I'd leave my kids with people I trust, I don't really care what race or religion they are.
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I'd leave my kids with people I trust, I don't really care what race or religion they are.
Bingo.
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The majority of Muslims aren't terrorists, but the majority of terrorists are Muslim.
Disagree. That's what the mainstream media is pushing, but "terrorists" are all over doing all sorts of wrong things. It's at their (media) liberty to label at will, and it's not spread evenly.

The media topic is bigger than this thread, so believe whatever I guess.
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Thinking all Muslims are terrorists is like thinking all Christians are members of the KKK. Fear makes for irrational interpretations of things.

I prefer to leave my kids with Eskimos.
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