02-25-2004
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Hello all, My name is Jack and i own Mitsubishi Specialties in Faribault. I recently sold a red 90 GSX to a guy that said he ran this website. My short term memory is really bad or else i would remember his name.
Anyway, i guess i'm here to help in any way i can and hopefully gain a few customers and friends along the way.
I don't want to step on anybodys toes here, so if there isn't any room for more shops/vendors just let me know and i'll be on my way.
Later
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02-25-2004
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Asshat King
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Decorah / Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,683
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Welcome Jack! We can always use more knowledge around here, hope to see you active on the board
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02-26-2004
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Sten Sniper
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Hope
Drives: Evo VIII RS
Posts: 1,385
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Sounds like someones secret 1.8l rally beast secret is out!!1!
whoops, did I just say that hmy:
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02-26-2004
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
Drives: 2003 Evolution VIII
Posts: 7,752
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Hi Jack! Originally from Owatonna here.
Allan didn't buy a GSX... Or did he? :stick:
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02-26-2004
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Matt, OK that sounds familair. How are you liking the car so far? My son is happy because now he has a sled. I'm sure next year when he gets his licence he'll change his tune though because now he's stuck with a 78 chevy 1/2 ton...........
So where on this board can i make a post that decribes my shop/services/prices/history etc?
The one thing i would like to make people aware of is i'll be placing an order with DN and can get just about anything they make for less than anybody here has seen.............
Jack
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02-26-2004
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 2012 Audi S4
Posts: 860
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Quote:
Originally posted by M-Spec@Feb 26 2004, 07:56 AM
So where on this board can i make a post that decribes my shop/services/prices/history etc?
The one thing i would like to make people aware of is i'll be placing an order with DN and can get just about anything they make for less than anybody here has seen.............
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You'd probably want to Private Message Allan about making a page for your company. His name is DSMStyle. Might be able to squeeze you in the Hosted Support Forum?
Welcome to the site!
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02-26-2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by illegaLaser@Feb 26 2004, 10:40 AM
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You'd probably want to Private Message Allan about making a page for your company. His name is DSMStyle. Might be able to squeeze you in the Hosted Support Forum?
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Done, thanks................
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02-26-2004
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
Posts: 10,329
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Welcome to the site.
Yes I did actually buy a 1.8L and no it wasn't from this guy. LOL I got mine from Steve Hill. I don't have a PM from you yet, so feel free to tell me a little about the shop down there via a e-mail to DSMStyle.com or a Private Message. We currently have 3 shops on the site that are a huge asset to our members. You will need to sell me on why I should add another.
On any note, welcome to the site and stick around.
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02-26-2004
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Actually i did email you, not pm, sorry for the confusion.
I just realized you are the owner of QPR? If thats the case you already know my prices are the lowest in the state and i can see why you would not want any more compitetion here, being as this is your site and QPR is your company. I can't think of anything i could say that would convince you to send business my way when it would otherwise come to you.
At any rate, what would be better, 3 shops that are huge assets, or 4 shops that are huge assets?
I'm thinking the majority of the users here would chose the latter............Compitition lowers prices, customers like low prices.
This post may seem harsh, but thats not what i intended.............
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02-26-2004
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And why should i stick around if i can't post my offerings?
Seems like i would only be helping my competition.
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02-26-2004
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Asshat King
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Decorah / Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,683
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Quote:
Originally posted by M-Spec@Feb 26 2004, 09:55 PM
And why should i stick around if i can't post my offerings?
Seems like i would only be helping my competition.
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I would think that you would have a vast amount of vaulable knowledge to pass on the members around here without screaming: "come to my shop!!" I guess I don't understand fully what you're trying to say?
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'92 Laser RS AWD & '01 Grand Prix GTP
Proud to be a Cyclone
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02-26-2004
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
Posts: 10,329
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I responded to your e-mail. But I want to make a few points here now.
I ask you to stick around for the simple fact that we like to bring new people into the group. If your just in it for the advertising then find the door.
There is a differance in 3 or 4 shops when your talking about a site this size and also the vast majority of individual member services we have as well as the shops. We don't need to overload. We don't even know what you do or what your credentials are.
How do I know your prices are the lowest in the state. I have never even heard of you and I know of some large shops in the area that probably get the same discounts if not larger ones. I don't even want to further this side of the debate.
SLS and Elite are here because of the people who own/work within them. You really can't find better people to deal with and they have proven that. Through good and bad, they support our site, and our members. QPR is here cause we have a love for the work and can also offer top service. While one shop may not carry parts the other does. While one shop offers 1 service, the third may offer something totally oposite. It's balanced quite well right now.
I welcome a 4th shop, if you can sell me on the reason we need it. So please respond to my e-mail with that in mind.
Topic closed.
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03-05-2004
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
Posts: 10,329
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Since you like to rant on the 3S list go ahead and rant here. I welcome your input with open arms as a free member of this site. I have determined with my admins we don't have a need for a 4th shop/vendor at this time as the 3 we have cover almost every area we need and have pruven to be a great asset.
So if you wish to stay on the site please do. Otherwise have a nice day.....
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03-06-2004
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OK, first off i started this thread before doing any research, thats my fault. I thought this was a message board where local DSMer's could go for advise and to check out the "preferred local shops". I couldn't have been more wrong, this message board is no more than an extension of 3 businesses. If i would have realized this, i would have never started this thread or even registered.
Now since you have decieded to unlock this thread i would like to address some questions and accusations that i previously could not.
1. "If your just in it for the advertising then find the door"........ I'm not in it just for advertising, i was simply asking where on this site can i post about my services, all other posts would have been geared towards helping people.
2. "you would have a vast amount of vaulable knowledge to pass on the members around here without screaming: "come to my shop!!"........ Thats exactly right, i never planned on going about it this way, see #1 above
3. "I welcome a 4th shop, if you can sell me on the reason we need it. So please respond to my e-mail with that in mind."...... I did that, (before you posted that comment) then you replied "thats what i'm talking about". Little did i know at the same time you were bashing me and closing this thread. Heres a copy of that email, i guess this is not enough to be considered an asset..........."I've been involved with Mitsubishis for 12 years, been in business for 3. I ran Hypertech's dyno for 2 years developing chips and power programmers. I have never touched anything that didn't have a diamond star logo (other than the stuff at Hypertech)
If you go to www.3si.org and look for my username "mitsubishispecialties", you will see that i have given a lot back to that board and i see no reason why i couldn't do the same here. I'm also listed on mn3s "local angle" page. Heres a quote from that page........"Jack will work on all Mitsubishi's and he'll do about any kind of mod or repair work. He can also get most performance parts. If he installs the performance parts for you, he'll only charge you his cost for the parts. Jack has gotten a lot of excellent recomendations from MN 3/S members and he has 10 years of experience with working on Mitsus. Jack really knows his stuff!!"
The ONLY time i was anything other than professional was after you played god and locked this thread.
I was ranting on mn3s?? Here are the emails to that list (along with the same spelling errors). Show me where i'm ranting.............
EMAIL 1
"I had to have broken a record of the shortest elapsed time from registering to having a thread locked.............
Just thought i would share...............
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1867 "
EMAIL 2
"Yea, i know.
Sometimes i let my feelings get the best of me. It's a "work in progress"
Overreacted yes, flew off the handle in up for debate...... "
EMAIL 3
"No problem guys, i was just more or less saying "look, i'm an idiot, my keyboard has a mind of it's own".
EMAIL 4
"I was talking about my labor prices but your right, i'm sure they are not the lowest either.
I originally saw that site with the local shop section and thought "great, a local board with local shop descriptions" (like mn3s ) It wasn't until i already posted and did a little research that i realized that wasn't the case"
EMAIL 5
"Heres a prime example of how i could have helped you if you helped me...................nothings free in this world, but I'm the kind of guy who would have gave you one to help you and your customer get back on the road."
This last one is the only place i could see someone taking that as a rant, but on the contrary, i was simply stating one way i would have been willing to help you guys (meaning QPR) out if you simply let me let others know there are more than 3 shops at they're disposal.
Like i said earlier, this could all have been avoided if i did the research ahead of time to realize this website is no more than an extension of 3 businesses. If it wasn't, you would welcome more competition (especially with the experience i have) to get better prices for the members.
I do have to hand it you guys, creating a message board to increase business while making it look like your helping the community. Thats pure genious..............
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03-06-2004
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Any 2 card caller.
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To be frank, this IS a message board for DSM enthusiasts, NOT a huge banner for advertising certain companies over others. This site has been around for many years and has undergone a few changes as of late. The forum with the shops were added only a few months ago to aid in the regular guys search for performance parts and services from places that are known to give reliable service and good prices.
And as for your number one in your last post, here's a direct quote from above, "And why should i stick around if i can't post my offerings? Seems like i would only be helping my competition. " That sounds to me like you are only here to sell. I understand you have a business and everyone wants their business to thrive. But coming on here your first day and pushing your services onto the site is not the way to do it. Gain the trust and respect of the members and they will come to you if your services are what you claim they are. I don't know you personally so I can't say one way or the other what kind of a person or business man you are. But if your work is anything like the way you started here, you seem to jump into things before looking at the big picture and doing a little research.
With that being said, if you do decide to stay here, win over your customers with your knowledge and expertise. I know that's what Elite has done and so have the members of QPR and SLS. The members of Elite have been involved with these guys for much longer than this site has been in existance. It's like Allan said, if you want to have a section on here, you are going to have to sell him on "why". He doesn't just put up anyones shops unless they can prove that they are a valuable asset. Whether it be prices or knowledge. Just remember, low prices are not ALL what people are looking for. It's like the motto for my father's old shop "We stock many parts but only one product, service". That was the reason why his business grew so much.
I'm not telling you how to run your business. It's just you need to look a little deeper than just the front page to see why things are the way that they are around here. If you have as solid of a reputation for good, honest service as you claim, then you should have no problem winning over any business as long as you go about it in the right manner. Don't go around cutting down other shops and members reputations to gain that business. Just remember, most of the people on this site have known each other for a good amount of years so it's tough to break in and try to pull any of them your way. Just be patient and if you are what you say you are, they will check you out as well.
I don't push one shop over another so i won't say which of the shops on here is the best. Each of them have a quality that sets them apart from the rest. Whether it be their ability to fabricate and weld, or their ability to tune or whatnot. Each has a strength that they can offer to the members that the other might not. Just giving low prices is not going to set you apart from the rest. Hell, with enough research I'm sure if you had the lowest prices, I could find them elsewhere cheaper. So don't wave the "lowest prices around" flag here. It don't fly well. You have to back it up with some proof that you are really here to help and not just make a buck off of the members.
Now, with that being said, I will get off of my soapbox and prepare my flameproof suit.
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03-06-2004
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ConArtist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,960
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I am going to waste my time responding to this thread only because it is starting to really piss me off. Jack, watch your stupid accusations, you are dead wrong. QPR is a new shop, Allan is a part owner and not the sole person involved. This site has been out for a few years and when we asked Allan to be a part of QPR, it was because of his capabilities and not this board. He is a good salesman and works well with vendors.
We have no problem with competition and have added more local shops to the board since starting the business. They are all very competant shops with people we know and trust running them, that is why they are here. Not because they come on screaming about what they can do and claiming to have the lowest prices in the state. --> I have not seen one case where that has been true with you in any of your advertised prices on any other board.
Do not slam QPR, Elite, SLS, Rick or anyone else, prove yourself by backing up what you say and quite acting like a child.
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03-06-2004
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
Posts: 10,329
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AMEN to both Erik and Mike.
Lemme break it down for you Jack. Give you a bit of a history lesson. I bought a 97 GST back in '99. A ricer in heart, a true blue big wing loving american. If you where at the all Mitsu cookout where some poor shmuck got a ricer award due to his sweet looking tires with red stripes in them... Yup that was me. Shortly after I bought the domain and made a small personal site. I became involved with 1 person mainly (Brian Barton - Slow White) and with his help became involved with others on this board I am extremely greatfull to still have tight friendships with today. Over the next few years I started to change over DSMStyle.com as a web based forum for DSMers to hang out with the help of those friends it grew. And it grew to be a small little site to what it is today. One of the biggest sites in this area (MN Based) and we really on't cater to DSMs.
Before we get to where we are today and before I even became involved with the shop known as QPR I invited Elite on the site. Mo and Shane have always bent over backwards for DSMers. Also Cher during his employment there and now Tyler. And it's not just DSMs they work on. They do it all. And have proven it many many times over. SLS is a repeat. Nick helps when he can. He isn't afraid to jump into something and get his hand dirty, even if it is on an Auto in the parking lot at BW at the SO. He has some great parts and deals and cover another section of the midwest for us, while still remaining close to home. Now 3 years of having ther site up and running I finally get a chance to do something I have always wanted to do. Get involved with a business. Hell why not. I have the background in sales and business management and thus the part I play in it. I can tear a motor down the proper way, but I promise I won't touch it in the rebuild process. lol. Your all safer that way. :-) So it was only natural I add QPR in the mix with SLS and Elite.
Now am I all about greed and shit. Nope, otherwise I wouldn't refer people to Elite and SLS. Nor would I have them on a site I own. When it boils down to it I can mix business and the site just fine. They are seperate from one another. Elite and SLS will always have a home here as long as they want to.
So how dare you come to and say I made this site to gain business. I don't care who you are or how many years you have into Mitsus. I have never heard of you up until this and that's why I didn't open my arms to your business. I wanted to know the people I put in view of our members.
That brings me to the end of my story and I hope I didn't fry your brian with my amazing spelling skills.
Oh yeah, Welcome to DSMStyle.com.
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03-06-2004
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
Drives: like a bat outta hell!
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I am going to have to agree with the other guys. It seems like you are coming across that advertising here is the #1 priority. If you can't advertise, why be around? I don't think that is the right attitude. If you build up a good reputation by helping people on the board out, the word will spread even if you don't have a shop thread. I am also sure they would be a lot more willing to give you a thread if you have been around on the board for a while and helping people out. From what I have seen in the past, people that spout off about how great they are, usually aren't.
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03-06-2004
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
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Originally posted by JET@Mar 6 2004, 11:43 AM
I am going to have to agree with the other guys. It seems like you are coming across that advertising here is the #1 priority. If you can't advertise, why be around? I don't think that is the right attitude. If you build up a good reputation by helping people on the board out, the word will spread even if you don't have a shop thread. I am also sure they would be a lot more willing to give you a thread if you have been around on the board for a while and helping people out. From what I have seen in the past, people that spout off about how great they are, usually aren't.
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Exactly! Thats how we have the members services as well.
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