beaterX project thread

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by scheides

Heh, I've put thousands of miles on it since the turbo stuff this summer. The shortblock has probably 21-22k on it, I drive it every day. I'm not not super happy it comes apart as often as it does but hey fix it quick and back on the road, that's my motto. No jack stands queen for me!

That's cool, I like just being able to get in a normal car and not think about it.
Good luck.

[Murlo26]

More boost and let er buck

[rose0529]

Bummer Doode!

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

More boost and let er buck

I like this idea.

[scheides]

Fun day! Swung out to MAP's new shop to pick up a small pile of parts and then up to Wagemon's to drop most of them off. MAP & Wag's really came through for me--I yanked the head wednesday night and delivered it Thursday, and as of 5pm today (Friday) the head was cleaned up and back in my hands

Here's what we figured out: valves and seats appear to be prematurely worn. All 8 exhaust valves were bent, just slightly. Lots of valves prematurely worn on the stem end. Spring seats are all deformed slightly, bending down all around the outside edge.





Out with the 'old':


In with the new parts:
-GSC 5042 Beehive valvespring/retainer kit
-8 new Supertech +1mm intake valves
-8 new Supertech +1mm exhaust valves
-16 new OEM valve seals/spring seats.

More bad news? One of my cam journals shows signs of slight scoring. They believe one cam cap is slightly out of round due to my dumb-ass over-torquing the cam cap bolts with an inaccurate torque wrench (read: buy good tools and the right tools!) This cam cap is also over-drilled and double-helicoiled thanks to yours truely and really the only fix for all of this is a full line hone or a new head core. I'm in over my head here so I have no choice but to trust what I'm being told, and I don't like what I'm being told

I had a set of GSC S2 cams ready to drop in but I couldn't bring myself to risk them. I asked them to just put the Kelford 214-B's back in and clean it up as best they could.

For those keeping track, here's where we're at:
-head trashed (but usable)
-block trashed (but fixable with sleeving)
-FML.

So yea, gonna be big decision time pretty soon here but for now I'm off to drink a case of Grain Belt and then put the car back together in the morning.

I got a nice set of MAP's H11 headstuds; these things are bad-ass! Anyone interested in a lightly-used set of ARP headstuds for CHEAP let me know!

[turbotalon1g]

Sorry dood.

[cmspaz]

Ouch. Stop by work tomorrow and I'll stop by your garage after, deal?

[rose0529]

[Halon]

Get together and running good. Then sell and buy godzilla.

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by scheides

I'm off to drink a case of Grain Belt and then put the car back together in the morning.

Like.


But the rest sucks man. Do you thing the over tightening of the cam cap caused all of this then? Why bring the stuff to Wagamon and not have MAP do it? idk, Wagamon fucked up a motor of mine so I'm just not a big fan of them.

[Mark Leasure]

Did you get it back together this weekend?

[scheides]

Originally Posted by Mark Leasure

Did you get it back together this weekend?

Hell yea! JUST got back from ripping around the neighborhood. Total, about 4 hours apart, couple hours (ok like 4) of cleaning and getting parts run around, maybe about 6 hours to get it back together. I made a few boneheaded mistakes but hey I caught them before it was too late

Yanked the cams to bolt the head to the block (dumb design imho but whatever):



Freshy fresh:


found a few nicks in the headgasket I got, not sure if that was from me or mitsu or what but I sure wish they would put these things in cardboard packaging, would be worth the extra $5 cost imho


I cleaned it up as best I could and used it anyways, it looks worse than it is I think.


gasket on, head bolted down, cams bolted in, gears on, timing chain mounted and timing set, chain tensioner set(this was one of my oopsies, put it in but forgot to tighten the bolts! doh!), and timing cover cleaned, RTV'd, installed, uninstalled, re-rtv'd, and re-installed



More freshy-fresh parts! I put in the revised timing chain from the 2010's:


New on the left (mounted), old one on the right:


After all the belt problems I had, bought a new tensioner and pulley. The pulley was like $65 and the tensioner + pulley was only like $30 more so I just got the whole assembly (still plastic but goes nice with my nice metal hyundai pulleys!)



So that's about it! Fired right up, no leaks yet, changed oil, fresh coolant, ripped it around the block a few times and parked it. Undertray, heat shields, and strut tower go back on tomorrow and it's back to DD duty for this pig. Car still sounds kinda diesely on cold start (but it always has a little) so its part injectors and maybe the rings on #1 are part of the problem. I'll just check the oil every 100 miles (as I have been all fall) and see what happens. Gonna check logs (did some quick pulls but with all the snow there's no traction!) and drink a beer.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR INPUT! Thank you MAP for the parts and coordinating with Wagemon Bros machine shop, total downtime was only *three* days, not bad!

[95talonracer]

Did you have to mess with checking clearances on bucket to cams on these cars? The 2jz's are the same whee you have to remove the cams to install the headstuds as well.

[Halon]

Nice, and good choice on the GSC springs

[scheides]

Originally Posted by 95talonracer

Did you have to mess with checking clearances on bucket to cams on these cars? The 2jz's are the same whee you have to remove the cams to install the headstuds as well.

Yup. I did it myself last time and it took two weeks (had to order a bunch of different ones). I let the machine shop do it this time and it took two hours. :P

[scheides]

Originally Posted by Halon

Nice, and good choice on the GSC springs

Honestly GSC Beehives and GSC S2 cams were my first choice for this car but they were on *uber* backorder so I went with the Supertechs based on a few recommendations and the Kelfords kinda the same. I had Kelford 272's in my evo8 so I knew they would be decent, but considering they idle *almost* like stock and are only 270° / 262° (exhaust cam is only 10.3mm of lift!) but make 600whp on a dynojet I gotta say I'm pretty damn impressed. I was pumped to go to the S2's and hope to pick up 15-20whp or so but maybe I'd be just dreaming. This setup was real nice, I'm sorry I had to mess with it but I'm glad I got the beehives now!

[turbotalon1g]

:woot:

Glad to here it's alive again! Way to bring in the new year!

[C3L1CA]

That's awesome it was only down for 3 days!


Think you'll do some even crazier build down the line sometime?

[rose0529]

Glad to hear its up and running!

[tmosser]

Originally Posted by Halon

Get together and running good. Then sell

Or trade me for my ix

Really glad to see you got it back together, good work too!