02-01-2012
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#1081
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by scheides
I always kinda bitched about that but ya know honestly, it's gonna be pretty hard to tell that it's not a stock turbo, it is *very* similar from a glance. I always race for fun so if it bumps me out, so be it.
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Just run SA/Unlimited like I plan
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02-01-2012
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#1082
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Re: beaterX project thread
You crazy dude, hopefully that clutch lasts 6 months! lol Looks sweet though!
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02-01-2012
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#1083
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minnesota
Drives: down the middle of the fairway bitches!
Posts: 1,306
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Re: beaterX project thread
Nice Scheides! Grats on having such an awesome wife! Oh yea, and the new turbo.
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02-01-2012
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#1084
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: beaterX project thread
Woo! Thing should rip!
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I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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02-01-2012
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#1085
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: beaterX project thread
That is awesome power, you can run up to 35psi right?
That oil line looks sweet.
That is some crazy power for SA/U
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02-01-2012
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#1086
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: edward lake
Drives: toaster
Posts: 6,431
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Re: beaterX project thread
aly said anna must have custody man hood
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02-01-2012
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#1087
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
That is awesome power, you can run up to 35psi right?
That oil line looks sweet.
That is some crazy power for SA/U
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No one has run like 30psi+ really on an EF4 on the X. For the Evo 8/9 people run like upwards of 43psi. I would think 32-33 is the sweet spot.
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02-01-2012
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#1088
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
So um...had to turn down WGDC everywere as this turbo just wants to run 33psi...so I have it down to only 64% from 7000+and with the MBC turned up a few cranks, the car now runs 32psi with a slight taper to 31 at 8000. Have not touched AFR or timing AT ALL! Timing is lower than it was on the BBX and AFR is leaning out a bit...check out initial virtual dyno plots:
*VIRTUAL DYNO! NOT REAL NUMBERS, just for fun!*
red is the last good BBX Virtual dyno I did, best it ever had done. blue and green are a few mins apart on an open, flat, straight road.
Need a fresh set of plugs and a trip to see shane...
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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Last edited by scheides; 02-01-2012 at 08:51 PM..
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02-01-2012
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#1089
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
No one has run like 30psi+ really on an EF4 on the X. For the Evo 8/9 people run like upwards of 43psi. I would think 32-33 is the sweet spot.
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Ya, it's got plenty left in it. We'll see how well my fuel system keeps up, but I'd love to run 32-33psi across the board with it. Maybe less WGDC and just spike 33-34 and down to 30-31 at 8000, we'll see.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-01-2012
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#1090
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by scheides
Ya, it's got plenty left in it. We'll see how well my fuel system keeps up, but I'd love to run 32-33psi across the board with it. Maybe less WGDC and just spike 33-34 and down to 30-31 at 8000, we'll see.
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I think i was only in the 70's for wgdc as well. Its got some power in that turbo for sure.
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02-01-2012
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#1091
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: beaterX project thread
Wow that looks like nearly identical spool? Excited for dyno numbers/overlays!
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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02-02-2012
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#1092
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Drives: Conquest
Posts: 5,049
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Re: beaterX project thread
I'm in for 650. lol. This is just silly, but I definitely want to get a walbro 400 pump now. And I'll be installing an ACT 6 puck in my car since it seems to be the only one available that can even handle the power it's already making. This is a very inspiring thread/build.
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02-02-2012
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#1093
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Haha, thanks man!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-02-2012
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#1094
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
No one has run like 30psi+ really on an EF4 on the X. For the Evo 8/9 people run like upwards of 43psi. I would think 32-33 is the sweet spot.
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Scheides will take care of that!!
I love that it comes to full boost about 4500ish and still breaks 600whp, time has brought some awesome tech.
I can't wait to see what this lays down, also in for the 650whp max boost pull!
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02-02-2012
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#1095
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: eagan
Posts: 898
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Re: beaterX project thread
Failures = opportunities in my book, good job on the upgrade. That’s an awesome power band and peak #’s! Supportive wives are keepers and the cherry on top is that she picked up parts, wow, that’s taking it to the next level.
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02-02-2012
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#1096
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
in for the 650whp max boost pull!
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Get that baby on a dynojet!!!
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02-22-2012
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#1097
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
EF4 freaking RIPS.
More rpm = more power, the car just does not stop. It seems so docile when driving nicely but go WOT and it's a mix of wanting to watch the tach to make sure I get revs high enough to be in the real power and not daring looking away from the road as the car just eats it up faster than ever. I rode in the 700whp car DB churned out a few years back and no my car is not 'that' fast, but honestly for being my DD the car is officially 'stupid' fast
Midrange needs some work but thanks to mivec the car does not feel lazy as was my lasting impression with FP's Black on Trevor's evo8 a few years back. The turbo snaps back to life inbetween gears just like my BBX did and if I want a little less power all I have to do is short-shift, the car is still fast as hell revving to 'only' 7000rpm.
The fuel system is at its limit on e70 and 31psi. Hughes linked me to this nice article about the Boomba fuel rail for the X yesterday:
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59514
Between that and Lomker's experience that he continues to share with us via the Internet I am sold and will be picking one up sometime, the car needs more overhead for when e85 comes back.
Virual dyno numbers are fine for now and they are in the neighborhood of a few guys' AMS 750R/PTE 5857 setups even before real tuning begins...I attribute a lot of the top-end awesomeness and extra nice numbers to MAP's 9-blade turbine wheel, the thing seems to act like it has a bigger turbine compared to a standard 11-blade....hitting the rollers...probably wait until I get my summer tires on and a few more bits and pieces to make the most of the setup for another year of ripping and thrashing! AFRs are fine and timing is conservative but climbs steadily, boost is flat...I will have shane brush it up soon enough
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-27-2012
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#1098
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Decided to run a tank of pump gas through this thing. Same tune from shane when the car was on pump gas last year. Timing was just flat with the new turbo from like 5500+ so I added a little bit up there but nothing crazy. It runs good an no knock, just straight MBC, no WGDC at all it is zero'd out across the board. I'm sure it has a ton more in it with a few more psi up top but this is just my 'get me by on pump gas' tune-- nice and safe.
Tons-o-fun!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-27-2012
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#1099
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back in the saddle again
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Re: beaterX project thread
Hell of a powerband!
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02-27-2012
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#1100
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: eagan
Posts: 898
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Re: beaterX project thread
Nothing beats a 4K rpm power band. Why did you run pump gas through it?
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