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is Nashty
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4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Well, first I'll start off with my old setup. Basically it was small 16g, 272's, e85, FMIC, ect. With that I ended up putting down 363whp and 365wtq at map's dyno with a boost leak and a okay tune.
Once I got out of school I figured it was time to stop maxing out 16g's and finally buy a real turbo and one with some lag to help my FWD spinning goodness. After searching the forums for a good month, I ended up buying a blown SBR G60 (60-1) with a S cover and a DNP tubular manifold for cheap.
Here it is next to a 37r
Gave the turbo to Julian (jhaan dude) and had it rebuilt. I have ran a couple of his turbo's without issues. He had the turbo done same day that I dropped it off. Couldn't be happier.
DNP manifold
After furthur inspection, I found a nice 1" crack along one of the welds..
Ended up taking my mig welder to it and welded the sh*t out of it.
Next day I brought the manifold over to Jesse at Primo to get ceramic coated. Should be done by the end of this week.
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is Nashty
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Now I needed a wastegate off the o2 housing. I got a hold of 2bar1g (mitch) and picked up his HKS 40mm wastegate and 3" o2 housing for a good price.
Painted the top of the wastegate black to go along with my "theme" of red and black.
After some test fitting I found that I needed a lot more room for the turbo to fit. As you can see the manifold was really close to the head and the compressor housing hit the waterpipe and motor mount..
Searched the forums once again and got a 1/2 thick spacer which made everything fit perfectly!
That's about all for now. Need to get some sleep. I'll update more later.
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
That is a seriously clean engine bay! Does the use of a manifold spacer require a different downpipe?
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Looking good man! This season was going to be my time to go with a big turbo too but I think I've been bitten by the rallyX bug.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
That's a big turbo! I as well, have been bitten by the big turbo bug. What are you going to be running for injectors now?
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Nice looking set-up there man! What kind of power are you looking to make? Any other mods besides those 272's?
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Nice!
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Nice, I'm also getting out of 16g's for a big turbo this year. That should make 500hp easy
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Why not cut the flange off and add runners to it. Instead of double flange. Somehow it looks like it's gonna have a sealing issue. But I guess if it works it works.
Nice project.
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
I've had a spacer plate like that for about 10k miles without any issues, just have to run an extra gasket thats all.
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flips McGee
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
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That is a seriously clean engine bay! Does the use of a manifold spacer require a different downpipe?
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If you look closely in the one pic, it looks like it will actually be quite close! If it bolted right up, that would be badass.
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I've had a spacer plate like that for about 10k miles without any issues, just have to run an extra gasket thats all.
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Was that with the hahn ecoli/slowwhite/hort/scheides turbo? I know it had the spacer/adapter on the top of the turbine housing...yea, it did have a spacer between the manifold and the head didn't it?! Otherwise the turbine housing would hit the block, suck.
Looks good man, but why a 60-1? That's some old-skool tech man. I'm sure on E85 it'll make badass power though, should be plenty of fun and might I say....done by spring dyno day? Looks like you're close
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
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Was that with the hahn ecoli/slowwhite/hort/scheides turbo? I know it had the spacer/adapter on the top of the turbine housing...yea, it did have a spacer between the manifold and the head didn't it?! Otherwise the turbine housing would hit the block, suck.
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Thats the one! It came with the whore turbo
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
looking good andy. Just to let you know that mani is not a dnp and that is why you need the spacer to clear it just hope it was really cheap for you to pick up
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Unsure resident asshole
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
It will crack again..Sorry bro. I had one of those..got rid of it right away. Get yourself a FP mani..
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
^ I have used my dnp for over 7 years and it has never cracked on me and has been on 3 of my cars and will be on the hatch soon
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formerly ecoli
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
^ I have a DNP sitting here at the shop that has probably been rewelded 10 different times. It was even cracking in the middle of pipe sections, not at a weld. Fixing it got old, so we switched to an SLS.
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Unsure resident asshole
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
My DNP t4 is just fine, but I'm selling all that off to fund another venture. I'm talking about the OP's manifold..looks more to me like the knock off ones. Even so, I hear those DNP's cracked alot cuz DNP used a different material to make them out of to keep costs down. I mean, who's going to spend 500+ on a stock replacement manifold, and sell them in great enough numbers to keep producing?
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Lookin good! Hope to see it out at the track this year!
I rock an SLS mani too. Love the mani, hate the shop tho, ha.
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is Nashty
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
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Originally Posted by mlomker
That is a seriously clean engine bay! Does the use of a manifold spacer require a different downpipe?
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Thanks! Well my downpipe reduces down to 2 1/2 and has a 2-bolt flange and my o2 housing is 3" with a 3-bolt flange. I already talked to mark and got a 3 bolt 3" flange from him. It still lines up pretty close so it shouldn't be that bad.
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That's a big turbo! I as well, have been bitten by the big turbo bug. What are you going to be running for injectors now?
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I have some FIC 1600's on the way.
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Nice looking set-up there man! What kind of power are you looking to make? Any other mods besides those 272's?
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I'm looking for 500whp maybe a little more. Internal wise I have BC 272's, MLS 4-layer headgasket and ARP headstuds. Everything else is stock/original with 71k miles.
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Why not cut the flange off and add runners to it. Instead of double flange. Somehow it looks like it's gonna have a sealing issue. But I guess if it works it works.
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That would be way more work than its worth. The manifold spacer was only 30 shipped. I already got 2 new gaskets and longer studs to bolt it up.
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Originally Posted by scheides
Looks good man, but why a 60-1? That's some old-skool tech man. I'm sure on E85 it'll make badass power though, should be plenty of fun and might I say....done by spring dyno day? Looks like you're close
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I actually only have a couple more things to get done. Just been busy and haven't had time to make this thread yet. I could have it running in less than a week, but I'm working on the little details. Spring dyno day is looking promising!
I went with a 60-1 cause it will spool around 4000-4300 which should help with some traction and I got a really good deal on the setup.
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looking good andy. Just to let you know that mani is not a dnp and that is why you need the spacer to clear it just hope it was really cheap for you to pick up
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I figured it wasnt since it didn't have the DNP stamp on it and the collector didn't look very clean. I talked to the guy I bought it from about it and he sent me back some of my money. I have been thinking of either just running it for this year and selling it. Or just sell it right away and buy a FP manifold.
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is Nashty
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Re: 4g63tcrazy's new setup for 2010
Next I got a COP setup from Stephan (greasemonkey) He ended up selling it to me for $39 bucks!
Here it is the night I picked it up.
Then I cleaned it up and prepped it for some wrinkle black paint and this is what I came up with.
Installed
While I took out my old spark plug wires and coil pack. I decided to take advantage of it and clean up the wiring some more.
I also prepped and painted the fuel rail semi-gloss black
Now I'm waiting for my 1600's to get here and the fuel rail will go back in.
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