Getting serious about a FMIC, need options...

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by EclipseTurbo

I did the ebay thing and QPR piping. Great qualoty unit and awesome work done by Mike but I think overall Ive spent probably more than a big fmic kit. Its also hard to get it right, especially with the long piping route. It just depends on what you want to do. If you plan on upgrading turbos you need to change your piping again.. (that what I had to do) but my j-pipe was really long so it had to be modded quite a bit.

It may seem like your spending less because you will spend 300 on a core first, then atleast 200-400 on piping, depending on metal choice, if your welding yourself, and all other work, couplers, clamps, etc.

Theres an easy way for a fmic and then theres custom. Im very happy with my unit but its tricky and time consuming to build and customize to fit. Other package units are known to fit and work with minimal mods.

Just my .02

I agree with Peter, I would just buy a premade kit. More than likely it will be cheaper in the long run and it most definitely will be easier.

[howslowcanyougo]

Originally Posted by JET

I would get an Ebay core before the Griffin. Get one like the one Tom got.

Did I just tell someone to do something that Tom did??

The Tom thing IS truely scary man?

But even if go with a Ebay core, what size do I need? Do I want to keep in around 9X24X3 for better fitment or go with a monster 12X30X3 for performance? Also what size inlets, 2.5 or 3?

Is there a downside <besides hacking the bumper more> to installing a bigger FMIC while using a smaller turbo, in my case a big 16?

Always need to be thinking about the next upgrade you know!

TIA...........

[Kracka]

Too large of a core will significantly increase the time it takes for your turbo to spool. You want 2.5" in/outlets. 24x10x3 is a good size. Ask Tom what size core he bought...his is pretty nice for the money.

[howslowcanyougo]

Originally Posted by S2kracka

Too large of a core will significantly increase the time it takes for your turbo to spool. You want 2.5" in/outlets. 24x10x3 is a good size. Ask Tom what size core he bought...his is pretty nice for the money.

Being that it takes till 3000 RpM for this 16G spool on this auto car now, I don't need any more lag!

Is Tom's installed and running yet?

Any details?

Performance, install issues?

What's brand name, vendor?

TIA.....

[Kracka]

Tom's is not installed yet, but he purchased it on eBay from a vendor in California for I believe under $300 total. His does have 3" in/outlets, but he will be using reducer-couplers to bring it down to 2.5".

[howslowcanyougo]

Looking at these here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742


This one looks kinda cool?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

Kit here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

Another kit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

Any Comments welcome........TIA..........Howie

[Kracka]

The first core and last two kits that you linked to look OK. I still like AGP's or Buschur's 2G kit better (both are $1000 plus about $50 for a J-pipe). Have you looked at Dejon's stuff yet? Their kit with a J-pipe will put you right around $900.

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

Originally Posted by S2kracka

Too large of a core will significantly increase the time it takes for your turbo to spool. You want 2.5" in/outlets. 24x10x3 is a good size. Ask Tom what size core he bought...his is pretty nice for the money.

Yea, it can take something like 0.0001 seconds longer to fill a large FMIC versus a small one.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by howslowcanyougo

Being that it takes till 3000 RpM for this 16G spool on this auto car now, I don't need any more lag!

No whining about lag, your car has a turbo, and you will always have lag. If you ever upgrade your turbo you will have more lag, it is just how the system works (for now).

I have a the Buschur 2g kit, w/ a 24x11x3.5 core, and with the small 16g I have on there now, I get 10psi by about 2300rpms, depending on what gear I'm in.

[howslowcanyougo]

Originally Posted by scheides

No whining about lag, your car has a turbo, and you will always have lag. If you ever upgrade your turbo you will have more lag, it is just how the system works (for now).

I have a the Buschur 2g kit, w/ a 24x11x3.5 core, and with the small 16g I have on there now, I get 10psi by about 2300rpms, depending on what gear I'm in.

If that's the case this combo don't look too bad for the $ then?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

[JET]

I doubt it is a real greddy core, there are WAY too many couplers, and there are no beads on the pipe. It doesn't look too bad though. Bring it over to me and I will weld up a few of the pipes and bead the other ends. It also doesn't look like they have reducers to go from the 3" FMIC to the 2.5" (?) pipes. Looks like a decent deal though.

[howslowcanyougo]

Holy Crap is that baby big!

18" x 12" x 3"

Check this pic:


http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-609871...2_1842_1036849


Man is that big bitch really going to fit into my Talon with out totaly hacking the bumper???

12" is pretty tall ain't it?

[Onefast99gsx]

Seems like a good deal to me too but there is like 6 days left in the auction. Also seems like too big of an intercooler IMO. I don't see any pictures of brackets and such. They weld bung things to the top and bottom but where is the parts that actually mount it to something? I spent probably just as much time trying to figure out how/what to mount to as i did on the piping idea project. Also, unless you're gonna cut the shit out of your front bumper cover, that intercooler size is a waste. You'll have about 4 to 5 rows of passages that are covered up.

IMPORTANT- Also if you have a 2g with foglights, make sure you can still have your fogs with whatever I/C you choose. The 2-178 that i sold, the way the tanks were made and the mounts were, didn't allow you to run your fogs. The piping went right smack in front of where the fogs were.

[Halon]

I have 3 friends running intercoolers made by a company called HYBRID. They are bar & Plate, and about 24x10x3. They all are making good numbers with them on their EVO's, and they got them off ebay for right around 300. I'd keep an eye out for them if you can find one. They are cheap, and apparently they are working just great. I'll keep an eye out too.

Also as a cheap alternative, I have heard a lot of good things about the stock EVO intercooler. Someone else please chime in, but I was researching it because my friend had bought one off another one of my friends. I kinda thought it wasn't the smartest thing at first until I started reading. And supposidely those stockers are supposed to perform pretty good. Anyone else hear this??

edit... I just looked on ebay and couldn't find any of the HYBRID companies cores for sale, but I did find this KIT with a picture of HYBRID's cores just to give you an idea of what their cores look like.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

[howslowcanyougo]

I agree, that damm "GEREEDY" Kit just looked too damm big!

And I DO have the stocker fogs, that I'd like to keep.

Thanks much Chris for the tip on those "Hybrid" models, they look like they may fit the bill?

Just wonder how they would mount up on a 2G?

[howslowcanyougo]

I did find this other kit that looked over at dsmparts.com?

http://www.dsmparts.com/customer/pro...cat=134&page=1

Will have to just keep digging!

If anyone runs into something cool and cheaper, please gimme a shout k?

Many Thanks to ALL!


Howie

[scheides]

Well, when you're comparing the different sizes, be sure to calculate the volume that they fill, not just the length & width & how 'big' they look.

my ic is 24x11x3.5, or 924ci. if you get a core that is 'about the same size' and only 3" thick, that comes out to only 792 ci, or 15% smaller. Just something to keep in mind. That IC core above comes out to only 532ci, seems pretty small to me. But, if you plan on sticking with a 16g setup, it might be just right!

[A//// Guy]

If you buy a core everything (mouting, piping route, modifications to make it fit) will all be custom. Brackets will need to be made, your bumper will need to be hacked until it fits. Its your choice but I doesnt seem like you want to go the super custom route. I doubt youll be able to keep the fogs too... but Im not sure, it all depends.

[howslowcanyougo]

Ok for price, value and fitment, what do you guys think of this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7969202112

Check out the sweet 2G pics farther down the page!


I know it 's too small for a 50 trim, as it's only 530 ci, but maybe ok on my 16G?

[A//// Guy]

Prolly will work just fine, even on a 50 trim...