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Old 09-14-2012   #41
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Re: Chris's Evo

What a fuck load of fuck that is.

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Old 09-14-2012   #42
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Re: Chris's Evo

I'm hoping to just throw a balance shaft elimination kit in there and be good.. But idk.. The damage is super minimal as in like 3 or 4 small flakes tops and that's after taking off the oil pan. Mike might chime in with his opinion.
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Old 09-15-2012   #43
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Re: Chris's Evo

I would of course get a new bearing for the bs elimination kit.. I wish I had more then 1 opinion on this.. Kevin is in Chicago at the moment and he rebuilt his motor him self. I also wanted to talk to Alex at MAP to get his opinion on it over the phone since he builds there motors, or at least he built mine for the GSX so it would be a start.

There is VERY minimal play in the rod bearing and I mean side to side not up and down. Believed to be the normal. And with the VERY few flakes found and discoloration I'm hopping that it can be an easy fix.. but who knows
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Re: Chris's Evo

If thats the case, you got lucky. Throw new bearings, flush the oil system as best as you can and let her buck.
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+1 do it to it. Good luck man!
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Re: Chris's Evo

Ya.. Does anyone know if you can do a BS elimination with the motor in the car?
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Re: Chris's Evo

You can but it can be a pain in the ass. Especially trying to get the old BS bearings out and installing the new ones.

Which balance shaft bearing is toast? If its the balance shaft driven off the oil pump, you dont need a bearing, just put the stub shaft in where the balance shaft bolts to the oil pump and you are set.

If its the other balance shaft, you'll have to pop the old bearings out, install the new ones 180* off from the oil port. Plug the front case and so forth.

Best bet would be to pull the motor and at least look though it. Inspect main/rod bearings for any shavings. No point in going though all that work if you dont inspect everything else. If there is any shavings at all, in my opinion, I'd tear it down and hot tank the block, make sure all the oil galleys are clean. If there was 3-4 flakes in the pan, who knows what it sucked up and is sitting in an oil passage somewhere ready to block it or get thrown into a rod/main bearing, then pretty soon you'll need a new crank or rod or both.

In my opinion... Bearings are cheap... Pick up a gasket set, bearings, and a balance shaft eliminator set and go through the bottom end.
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Re: Chris's Evo

I found a broken stud on the inside of my lower timing cover.. Just have to get the cover off to get it out and find out what the hell happened.. I'm in need of jack stands.. My eclipse is taking up the 4i own..
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I can bring an extra set of wheels over so we can use those stands
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I have a couple of extra stands you can use for a bit.
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Re: Chris's Evo

That sounds horrible!
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Re: Chris's Evo

It really does but I took off the lower timing cover and found a broken stud that mike thinks is off of a timing belt tensioner tool that broke off and the previous owner left it in there.. Besides that everything looked great and all belts were good and spun with the crank.. Rod were tight also but I didn't do a BS elimination or anything so idk..
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Re: Chris's Evo

I'm going to be checking the rid bearings today with mike. I'll let everyone know the outcome.
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Evo=Just another DSM. Hope you figure it out and it doesnt drain your pockets fixing it.
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Re: Chris's Evo

Bearings all looked pretty good minus one that has somehow rotated on the crank..still have metal shavings in the oil pan.. I don't see any shavings off the rod bearings which means either BS or main.. I'm pulling the motor and dropping it off at a shop for overhaul.
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Re: Chris's Evo

Rotating brains sounds pretty bad.
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Re: Chris's Evo

Idk what your talking about
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Re: Chris's Evo

lol.
Good luck man, shitty this happened.
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That sucks Chris!

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