The Thruth on Cam Advertised Duration Etc

[spoolin d dub]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

That would be some awesome info for us who still can't decide between them.

Awesome isn't the word lol.

All I can say is this test is much more in depth and has better data then the AMS cam test article. It impressed me so much I subscribed to a 1yr subscription of DSport lol.

[dsmreck]

mega awesome

[spoolin d dub]

Ok I got the Dsport with all the cams. It has some very good info but not all of it is applicable because not all Evo cams have the same specs as dsm. The only ones I know that are same are Kelford, GSC, COMP Cam, and Tomei. They put alot of work into this test so I am not going to put the specs. Go out and get the mag. Here are what they tested and my theory of stating advertised duration not being correct compared to similar cams are proven on a few cams. Some of the results are very surprising.

Comp 264
HKS 272
Comp 272
Kel 264
Cosworth M1
Comp 280
GSC S2
Kel 272
Tomei 270
Buschur 272
Jun 272
Tomei 280
GSC R2
Kel 280
GSC S3
Tomei 290

[goodhart]

Ah Wtf I didn't get mine yet...I guess ill wait till Monday

[turbotalon1g]

Wow they got GSC R spec cams. I might have to look at this issue

[dsmreck]

r spec? I should have my s3 early next week can't wait

[spoolin d dub]

It has some very good info. But not all of the info is applicable because not all Evo cams have the same specs as a dsm. The only ones I know that are same are Kelford, GSC (minus the spec r), COMP Cam, and Tomei

[turbotalon1g]

R specs are for strokers I believe.

[spoolin d dub]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

R specs are for strokers I believe.

I spoke to GSC when the R2's first came out last year and as of this time they are still only offered for Evo's. I do not see DSMers supplying enough demand for them to make a DSM R2.

[dsmreck]

so how did the s3 do compared to the kelford 280

[spoolin d dub]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

so how did the s3 do compared to the kelford 280

I heard the larger S3's have not to long ago been revised and out perform the slightly smaller Kelford 280's something nasty!!! But the smaller advertised duration 226/226 Kelford 272 not only makes more power than the larger advertised duration 230/230 GSC S2. Test show that the Kelford 272 are actually larger. Verifying what I have stated. That advertised duration BS don't really mean nothing. The test also show that the TOMEI 280'S almost mirror the GSC SC3 in performance!!

[dsmreck]

ouch on bc. If I were doing a test I would do the same thing or have a third party access cams for me.

[spoolin d dub]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

ouch on bc. If I were doing a test I would do the same thing or have a third party access cams for me.

I feel they didn't want to be up against the elite lol. Theythrow the cams in a random car with results that will have ton a variables. Then sit back watch the results.

[evotuner]

Originally Posted by spoolin d dub

They throw the cams in a random car with results that will have ton a variables. Then sit back watch the results.

Yup cant say it any better, proof is always in the pudding as they say!!

[spoolin d dub]

I must be saying something right lol. Brian Crower reached out and contacted me stating I am correct on the way I am comparing cams. They also stated they are/have revised some of their cams. The new BC 284/280 advertised specs are right there with GSC S3 and Kelford 280. Then they gave me the advertised specs on their soon to released BC 276 cam.

[turbotalon1g]

I'd have to see them tested to trust them.

A few DSMers have the R spec cams

[spoolin d dub]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

I'd have to see them tested to trust them.

A few DSMers have the R spec cams

What are r spec cams? I believe what they are saying. They have info on new BC 284/280 cam. It was put on their website last year. Look at it compared to the FP 5R cam. It's just slightly smaller

BC 284/280
http://www.briancrower.com/makes/mit.../bc_0103-2.pdf

FP 5R
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...ds/dsmfp5r.pdf

[dsmreck]

^ he already answered that. stroker cams. buy gsc or kelford and stop pretending you want something else ftw

[spoolin d dub]

Originally Posted by dsmreck

^ he already answered that. stroker cams. buy gsc or kelford and stop pretending you want something else ftw

That's funny lol. Because last I checked with GSC the R2 was not made for DSM's. That was last year and not even sponsored DSM's I personally know could get R2's. I just spoke to GSC at 7:30am today and was verified that info is still accurate.

Do not get my intentions confused. I just post accurate info. I am no fan boi to any company lol. BC asked me if I were interested in running their cams. I thanked them. Then I told them they don't offer a cam big enough to support my setup lol. I run what I want in my car lol. FFWD KING KAMS!

[turbotalon1g]

I know I've seen a set for sale on the link forums.

You should post this info there, that is easily the most tech forum for DSMs right now.