09-21-2015
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
So my FPRed shelled a blade off of the exhaust wheel and destroyed the turbo. It had around 65Kmiles of 35psi. Nothing is reusable per FP's assessment. I liked the response and power level, I don't think there is a real equivalent with a T3.
T3? is that all we have now? The other bolt on's from FP are a joke...you need a new downpipe, wastegate, etc.... Garbage IMHO. I didn't want a bolt on BB due to the price.
i'm thinking a PTE 5558 with a .63 housing? I want a drivable, all around easy to deal with car.
Fail.
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Last edited by Mark Leasure; 09-21-2015 at 10:13 PM..
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09-21-2015
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#2
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
5857 or 5858 it is now, BB or go BW.
My 5857 with kel ford 272s was awesome, sadly I bought a JB version it didn't last 5k miles,they didn't put in a retaining clip for the hotside bearing.
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09-22-2015
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#3
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: edward lake
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
^ that is the same thing that happed to the 5857 I got from a buddy
would go BW
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09-22-2015
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Yeah I'm done with PTE, their customer service is disgusting.
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09-22-2015
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Pewp Champion
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, you could look at the EFR 7064 (56lb/min) or 7670 (64lb/min). Both come in T3 or T4 form, internal WG, integrated blow off valve, optional compressor wheel speed sensor (good for your engineering mind!).
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09-22-2015
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#6
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aka Goodbye
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Buy my FP Red. It's the old skool so it's got the Evo hotside, plus now getting the new HTZ wheel and new 84mm compressor cover. It's currently at FP getting the work done.
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09-22-2015
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: eagan
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Buy my FP Red. It's the old skool so it's got the Evo hotside, plus now getting the new HTZ wheel and new 84mm compressor cover. It's currently at FP getting the work done.
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Seriously, IM me!
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Faster: Evo IX MR PTE6266 E85 823WHP 9.90@147
Fastest: 92 Talon AWD 8.14 @ 171 MPH
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09-22-2015
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: eagan
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Evo hot side meaning twin scroll exhaust manifold? And old school meaning their first release of the evo fpred? With out the flow advanced cover, ( now it will have)? Did they confirm it was good and provide the quote?
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Fast: EvoIX SE Blouch 2.0xtr turbo E85
Faster: Evo IX MR PTE6266 E85 823WHP 9.90@147
Fastest: 92 Talon AWD 8.14 @ 171 MPH
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09-22-2015
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#9
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: eagan
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Question to all the pte issues, was it a journal or bb? I've had great luck with my pte turbos over the years, most are bb, for the exception of a 5031 on an old dsm.
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Fast: EvoIX SE Blouch 2.0xtr turbo E85
Faster: Evo IX MR PTE6266 E85 823WHP 9.90@147
Fastest: 92 Talon AWD 8.14 @ 171 MPH
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09-22-2015
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#10
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Mine was a journal bearing, always an issue with their JB stuff. I've been too poor/cheap to buy their BB stuff.
I've heard their issues with BB stuff is minimal.
**edit** Once PTE rebuilds their JB turbos they seem invincible like BW, holset, Garretts are new. I figure better quality control/build.**
Last edited by turbotalon1g; 09-22-2015 at 07:15 PM..
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09-22-2015
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
same as brown man
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09-22-2015
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#12
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aka Goodbye
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Yep, twin scroll 10.5 MHI hot side, flow advancement cover and HTZ wheel, fully rebuilt at FP with zero miles. No longer available from FP.
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09-22-2015
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#13
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flips McGee
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
Stock turbo son!
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09-23-2015
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Smells like cat poop
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
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Originally Posted by scheides
Stock turbo son!
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Oh my... where the fuck have you been??
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09-23-2015
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#15
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aka Goodbye
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
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Originally Posted by polishmafia
Oh my... where the fuck have you been??
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Must be over in the Honduh boards.
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09-23-2015
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#16
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: hwy 694
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
I'd try to find a bolt on turbo weather its used or needs work. You wont find that instant/no lag with a pte or borg warner turbo witch I think you'd want on your DD.
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09-23-2015
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immune from paybans
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
^ For simplicity sake, I agree with doing a bolt-on turbo. But as for lag, I disagree, I am really a fan of BW EFR series (spendy as they may be). True they won't have the twin scroll Evo exhaust housing, but my BW spools faster and flows 50% more air than my Garrett T28... that says a lot! (Yes my new 44 lb/min turbos spool 300 rpm quicker than the old 30 lb/min turbos)
The downside is you need a new exhaust manifold and O2 housing or downpipe to fit the T3 input and vband discharge. And the turbo costs a stupid amount.
Last edited by asshanson; 09-23-2015 at 08:12 PM..
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09-24-2015
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#18
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
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Originally Posted by URV8SUX
I'd try to find a bolt on turbo weather its used or needs work. You wont find that instant/no lag with a pte or borg warner turbo witch I think you'd want on your DD.
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Agree.
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09-28-2015
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#19
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
I have a FP Green coming back from FP as well, JB MHI housing that they no longer make. I made 492/460 at Rons with the same turbo on my 2.3 Evo. Shoot me a pm if you have any interest.
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09-30-2015
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#20
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: eagan
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Re: What now? My Evo FPRed is Dead
The deal with GBlower fell thought. FP contacted him late in the game and said his MHI housing was junk. I receive the same message from them on my turbo...
I'm very interested in the Green! PM sent!
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Fast: EvoIX SE Blouch 2.0xtr turbo E85
Faster: Evo IX MR PTE6266 E85 823WHP 9.90@147
Fastest: 92 Talon AWD 8.14 @ 171 MPH
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