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[A//// Guy]

^Totally agree. People just see what they want to see though. Christians have the least worries when it comes down to judgement by others imo. Muslims probably have it the worst at this point in time.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Ask a muslim, scientologist, or morman how it feels?
There isnt an attack on Christianity silly, theres an attack on ALL religions. Its due to the fact that you are a christian that you seem to think people are attacking your religion. What do you think a muslim feels when you have idiot right wing Christians calling them all terrorists. What do you think a morman thinks when people constantly associate their religion with polygamy, or a scientologist thinks when someone makes fun of their origin story.

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

^Totally agree. People just see what they want to see though. Christians have the least worries when it comes down to judgement by others imo. Muslims probably have it the worst at this point in time.

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

And for the "But what about the crusades?" crowd,
Answer: The crusades have provided some of the most frequent arguments against the Christian faith. Some Islamic terrorists even claim that their terrorist attacks are revenge for what Christians did in the crusades. So, what were the crusades and why are they viewed as such a big problem for the Christian faith?

First of all, the crusades should not be referred to as the “Christian crusades.” Most of the people involved in the crusades were not truly Christians, even though they claimed to be. The name of Christ was abused, misused, and blasphemed by the actions of many of the crusaders. Second, the crusades took place from approximately A.D. 1095 to 1230. Should the unbiblical actions of supposed Christians hundreds of years ago still be held against Christians today?

Third, not that this is an adequate excuse, but Christianity is not the only religion with a violent past. In actuality, the crusades were responses to Muslim invasions on what was once land occupied primarily by Christians. From approximately A.D. 200 to 900, the land of Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey was inhabited primarily by Christians. Once Islam became powerful, Muslims invaded these lands and brutally oppressed, enslaved, deported, and even murdered the Christians living in those lands. In response, the Roman Catholic Church and “Christian” kings/emperors from Europe ordered the crusades to reclaim the land the Muslims had taken. The actions that many so-called Christians took in the crusades were still deplorable. There is no biblical justification for conquering lands, murdering civilians, and destroying cities in the name of Jesus Christ. At the same time, Islam is not a religion that can speak from a position of innocence in these matters.

To summarize briefly, the crusades were attempts in the 11th through 13th centuries A.D. to reclaim land in the Middle East that had been conquered by Muslims. The crusades were brutal and evil. Many people were forced to “convert” to Christianity. If they refused, they were put to death. The idea of conquering a land through war and violence in the name of Christ is completely unbiblical. Many of the actions that took place in the crusades were completely antithetical to everything the Christian faith stands for.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christia...#ixzz3WGqfWVss

Answer: ORIGINS OF THE CRUSADES
After the death of Charlemagne, king of the Franks, in 814 and the subsequent collapse of his empire, Christian Europe was under attack and on the defensive. Magyars, nomadic people from Asia, pillaged eastern and central Europe until the 10th century. Beginning about 800, several centuries of Viking raids disrupted life in northern Europe and even threatened Mediterranean cities. But the greatest threat came from the forces of Islam, militant and victorious in the centuries following the death of their leader, Muhammad, in 632. By the 8th century, Islamic forces had conquered North Africa, the eastern shores of the Mediterranean, and most of Spain. Islamic armies established bases in Italy, greatly reduced the size and power of the Byzantine Empire (the Eastern Roman Empire) and besieged its capital, Constantinople. The Byzantine Empire, which had preserved much of the classical civilization of the Greeks and had defended the eastern Mediterranean from assaults from all sides, was barely able to hold off the enemy. Islam posed the threat of a rival culture and religion, which neither the Vikings nor the Magyars had done.
http://history-world.org/crusades.htm

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

We can talk to recent history regarding this. Hitler. Christian german trying to create the supreme race by ridding the world of jewish people.
The KKK ridding the world by hanging, burning and murdering people of any color other than white.
So would you say these sects of christianity really relate to your view of your religion?
No? Well then you cant do the same thing with Islam. (Muslim is not a religion) Many Muslims do not fall into the same extremist views as the ones making headlines. Just like most christians do not share the same views as wesboro baptist church.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

We can talk to recent history regarding this. Hitler. Christian german trying to create the supreme race by ridding the world of jewish people.
The KKK ridding the world by hanging, burning and murdering people of any color other than white.
So would you say these sects of christianity really relate to your view of your religion?
No?

I don't agree with any of those cenarios. Mass murder is wrong, period.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Well then you cant do the same thing with Islam. (Muslim is not a religion) Many Muslims do not fall into the same extremist views as the ones making headlines. Just like most christians do not share the same views as wesboro baptist church.

I did state Muslim when I shouild have stated Islam, my bad.
So when Islamist start speaking out against Radical Islamist, you let me know.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I don't agree with any of those cenarios. Mass murder is wrong, period.



I did state Muslim when I shouild have stated Islam, my bad.
So when Islamist start speaking out against Radical Islamist, you let me know.

Heres two cases. Would you care for more?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...o-be-critical/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/muslim-...n-isis/5397364

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

Also, ISIS is killing muslims, large quantities. You probably arent seeing this in the mainstream news.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eath-toll.html

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

Many Muslims have spoken out about it, but are quickly drown out by the likes of fox news and their supporters making stupid accusations such as the one you just made.
I particularly detest the last thing you said above because it goes beyond what you said before that, "Its because they brought it upon themselves". Seems to be the republican stance on a lot of subjects lately. Blaming the victim... "That boy was beaten up because he was gay, well i guess he shouldnt have been gay and brought it on himself" "That girl was raped and got pregnant, Well she shouldnt have been dressing that way inviting rapists, she brought that upon her self when she wore those clothes."

[A//// Guy]

Arnie puts it well: http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...r-republicans/

[A//// Guy]

Im talking about in the US, not over in the middle east. smh. You cant talk about religion world based, when we are discussing laws being made in the US.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

Im talking about in the US, not over in the middle east. smh. You cant talk about religion world based, when we are discussing laws being made in the US.

Why can't I? Hasn't stopped people in this forum before.

So it's ok for Christians and other non-Islamist to be KILLED in the most gruesome fashion and that doesn't matter as long as gay boy can get his wedding cake. And if he can't, threaten and bankrupt a baker.
Explain that logic to me, we're all waiting.

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Why can't I? Hasn't stopped people in this forum before.

So it's ok for Christians and other non-Muslims to be KILLED in the most gruesome fashion and that doesn't matter as long as gay boy can get his wedding cake. And if he can't, threaten and bankrupt a baker.
Explain that logic to me, we're all waiting.

Dude really? This is going the same way every other political thread goes, not sure why I chimed in.

Anyway, obviously no it is terrible a small group of terrorists are killing people who are non muslim, but they are also killing other muslims as well.

The original topic was about a law passed in this country, not sure why youd even bring this up, when it doesnt pertain to it. If people were getting killed here because they couldnt buy a cake from a christian bake sale that was shaped like a weiner, then that would make a bit more sense in your argument. I dont see that happening.

[tpunx99GSX]

Did you just defend the crusades? Lmao
And using the arguement that they were not truly Christians can be the same argument Muslims can make about Isis not being true followers of Islam.
I'll write more against your arguement once I get out of this meeting

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Did you just defend the crusades? Lmao
And using the arguement that they were not truly Christians can be the same argument Muslims can make about Isis not being true followers of Islam.
I'll write more against your arguement once I get out of this meeting

I didn't defend the crusades, I gave the history behind the crusades.

[tehehodi]

Hey guys,

Don't mind me, I just wanted to in.

[A//// Guy]

lmao, black people arent allowed to use fans in this forum.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Really? What if you had only recently be allowed to marry as a heterosexual? What if your right to marry was still being challenged?

See, here's a major part of the problem.

Marriage as defined by, oh lets see, Oxford Univerisity (Oxford Dictionaries) is the union between a man and a woman.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...glish/marriage

Here's another way to look at it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcs1K7Gi9Pg&hd=1

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Could what you express as discrimination toward "whitey" be only feeling pissed about no longer being on the top of the food chain.

Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

I think his point wasn't white guilt, but more "EVERYBODY is discriminated against, so why not white people." Cry because its you, but its ok if you do it to someone else.

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

See, here's a major part of the problem.

Marriage as defined by, oh lets see, Oxford Univerisity (Oxford Dictionaries) is the union between a man and a woman.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...glish/marriage

Here's another way to look at it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcs1K7Gi9Pg&hd=1



Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

So you see gay marriage as illegitimate because of the dictionary definition. So all I have to do is slip the definition of Jeremy into the dictionary as the richest motherfucker on earth and then it will be an undeniable truth? But, seriously it's clear what your position on homosexuality is.

Racism against whites is a joke.

The free market will certainly handle things well. The best example would be when government intervention caused slavery and then the free market set things straight.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

So you see gay marriage as illegitimate because of the dictionary definition.

I though we cleared this up already. Marriage is a man and a woman. Don't like it, tuff shit, that's the reality of it.

What you want is a civil union between gays, and guess what, that already exist.

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

So all I have to do is slip the definition of Jeremy into the dictionary as the richest motherfucker on earth and then it will be an undeniable truth?

IDK, try it and see if it works.

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

But, seriously it's clear what your position on homosexuality is.

Please tell us what that would be.

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Racism against whites is a joke.

So you're saying that only whites can be racist and all others are exempt?

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

The free market will certainly handle things well. The best example would be when government intervention caused slavery and then the free market set things straight.

LoL

[A//// Guy]

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