Confederate flag, yes or no?

[A//// Guy]

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[AJ]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

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hahaha the Zune... that lasted that long huh...

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

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I used to like New York Seltzer. I can't remember the last time I saw that.

On a side note, the facebook conversations on the bottom of that page brought up an interesting point. A designer of the second Confederate flag had this to say. "As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[4]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.[5]… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.[6]"

[Tachyon]

Let's offend everybody at the same time!

[Kracka]

^That...is incredible!

[Alpha D]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Sure it is.

George Washington owned slaves, some while he was President. Should we tear down the Washington Monument too?



It won't end, this is just the start,......

We should make you a slave in modern times...heck go back in time and see how that one goes over lol

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Alpha D

We should make you a slave in modern times...heck go back in time and see how that one goes over lol

And your point is? There is nobody alive today who was a slave, we are several generations past that now.

[SlowWhite]

If rand paul is anything like his father I honestly pray he becomes president. For me its like hes our only hope starting this country back on a path to what is should be.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

and they are choosing to take it down. The federal government is not making them take it down, the people are stating their opinion to take them down.

If you were to take a vote here in south carolina it would come.out that as a state we want it to continue fly.(I personally dont count because im from new york and care less about the confederate flag., the issue in Irvin California on the other hand really pissed me off, that was the first time heard about it)
However because of the few who are making it into the media
Nikkei Haley is feeling the pressure to take it down.

Its once again those who speak up are the ones who are getting there way. However through fear of retaliation for the most part no one is standing up for it to stay flying.

Its why you'll seems people who live off Medicare and welfare. Are the loudest and quickest to speak up when there lively hood is threatened. Its also why this country is going down hill to many people are afraid to stand up for what's right. And Most decent people who have to work and actually contribute to society have to much to do, to actually take on more, by standing up for what's right.
And those that dont have to work and get everything handed to them have the freedom all day to do as they please.

Its again why I pray rand paul gets elected. His father stated once. Something along the lines of. America was founded on the principle of hard work. Nothing is handed.to you. And he believes that same principle needs to be brought back to this country

[jeremy1375]

^I completely agree. Who cares if some folks whose ancestors were slaves find the Confederate flag to be an offensive reminder of slavery. Fuck them, they're not important, I'm white and this country is all about me! I'm the victim!

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

^I completely agree. Who cares if some folklore.ose ancestores werelaves find the Confederate flag to be an offensive reminder of slavery. Fuck them, they're not important, I'm white and this country is all about me! I'm the victim!

I find anyone segregating themselves offensive. what our founding fathers were striving for is "america/american"

Not black american, Mexican american, Irish american, Japanese american, etc

Just flat out american.

People left there ancestral homelands for a reason. To become an american and live the american dream.
if you want to fly the flag of your home land over the american flag , feel free to go back there because clearly you feel you country is better then ours.
I for one would rather see only the american flag everywhere. Amd this type of crap in Irvine california used to fall under treason.
I its not that im racist im a patriot and want to see this country become only "american"
I hate seeing Spanish on signs, i hate that some states have to spend half the day teaching in English and the other half in Spanish.
This is america we speak english period.

[jeremy1375]

So as Americans we should be intolerant of those who don't look, act, and speak like us? Sounds good, I've been looking for a good reason to kick the hmong guy's ass down the street from me since he's always doing hmong stuff and he needs to take that attitude back to hmongland.

Originally Posted by SlowWhite

if you want to fly the flag of your home land , feel free to go back there because clearly you feel you country is better then ours.

But seriously, since you think the Confederate flag should be flown at your capital, everything you've said so far suggests you believe you belong back in the Confederate States of America, not the United States where we fly the Stars and Stripes.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

So as Americans we should be intolerant of those who don't look, act, and speak like us? Sounds good, I've been looking for a good reason to kick the hmong guy's ass down the street from me since he's always doing hmong stuff and he needs to take that attitude back to hmongland.



But seriously, since you think the Confederate flag should be flown at your capital, everything you've said so far suggests you believe you belong back in the Confederate States of America, not the United States where we fly the Stars and Stripes.

I have said nothing about violence. But I guess thats just your personality.

I am simply stating. If you dont want to be an american then get out. I also find it truly offensive that people w ere told they cant fly the american flag in america. Might as well piss on ever soldier that ever fought to make sure that flag stayed flying.
As for being tolerant yes. We should. We should teach english in our schools to help them learn it. We should stop giving aid to those that aren't actively working on getting off medicare/welfare (circumstances provided of course, if you can physically work, then you need to be out there working, if you've worked your hole life and our government fucked your retirement then thats fine too)

As for the confederate flag. re-read my post. Although I live here I dont believe I have a say in the matter.

I didnt fight in the war.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

So as Americans we should be intolerant of those who don't look, act, and speak like us? Sounds good, I've been looking for a good reason to kick the hmong guy's ass down the street from me since he's always doing hmong stuff and he needs to take that attitude back to hmongland.



But seriously, since you think the Confederate flag should be flown at your capital, everything you've said so far suggests you believe you belong back in the Confederate States of America, not the United States where we fly the Stars and Stripes.

I dont mind remembering where you came from, but dont forget where you are.

America should be first and foremost

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by SlowWhite

I also find it truly offensive that people were told they cant fly the flag in america.

Are you talking about the Confederate flag? Nobody said people can't fly it, they said the government shouldn't fly it, right? If you believe a flag should be flown to show respect and remember those who died fighting for the right to own slaves, why shouldn't a flag also be flown to remember all the slaves who suffered unthinkable inhumane treatment?

[SlowWhite]

http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/05/americ...aving-u-s-flag

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Are you talking about the Confederate flag? Nobody said people can't fly it, they said the government shouldn't fly it, right? If you believe a flag should be flown to show respect and remember those who died fighting for the right to own slaves, why shouldn't a flag also be flown to remember all the slaves who suffered unthinkable inhumane treatment?

My comment was about american flag amd I edited my post to clarify, and I was also referring to a post from kracka where yes in irvine california on a public school campus they were told not to fly the american flag on cinco de mayo because nit offended Hispanics and they threatened violence

[jeremy1375]

I see, my fault. Anyhow, you have a much different view of America than I do. I'm not a first generation American so I can't imagine what it would be like to be one. You, on the other hand, must have done very well as one since you are able to judge how bad of a job so many of them are doing.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

I see, my fault. Anyhow, you have a much different ifiew of America than I do. I'm not a first generation American so I can't imagine what it would be like to be one. You, on the other hand, must have done very well as one since you are able to judge how bad of a job so many of them are doing.

On the contrary I came from a wealthy family and chose to blow off school and goof off as a kid. And at the age of 18 reality hit. Ive had to pull 100-120hr work weeks for most of my early working career because of the piss poor decisions I've made earlier.

And only one time in my life have I ever asked for aid from our government. I had lost my job and was.living paycheck to paycheck. And had no savings. And was looking at foreclosure on my house. Ended up taking a $40,000 loss on the house as I sold it.
and I was promptly told "no" because I made to much money over the past three years prior.
So I've had to work my ass off for what I have (which isn't much). And thats what this country was founded on.
If I can work shifty hours, 30+hr shifts. And take responsibility fornmy decisions and live with the consequences. I believe so should everyone else.
I dont think its fair to those that worked in school or worked there tails off to have to pay for the lively hood of those that have done nothing and made poor decisions is simply what im saying. I dont mind for a little bit. Everyone falls on hard times. But to make it your life style is ridiculous.
And I for one have relatives doing this and I find it appalling. My cousin hasn't worked in 15yrs.

[jeremy1375]

I can agree that hard work is an important part of America. I'm now exhausted from work and must rest. lol

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

I can agree that hard work is an important part of America. I'm now exhausted from work and must rest. lol

Lol - im still at work 12hr days. Which is why my posts are so bad. Predictive texting sucks, and trying to edit posts / grammar mistakes is a pain in the ass.