Potential Buy 1997 GSX - Page 3

SlowWhite · 05-22-2014

Well just found out that the car doesn't have heat (he said it did before but said shane bent the pipe at the firewall when installing the motor. The owner didn't care so he said by pass it.

Well now he said I'd have to basically buy a donor car if I wanted it. As he thinks the heater core leaks.
and he had the water pipe welded and the t-house welded.

He also said its a good thing I started asking him questions about it because he'd forgotten all about it.

And in the current setup I can not run water cooled turbos if I ever upgraded.

So this now created several questions.
this car is going to be driven 1/2 the time at night. Where in will need a defogger/defrosted for colder days as I don't get off work till midnight and home around 1am.

He says the a/c works just no heat. What part is needed to defog the windows?
Im sure to de ice the windows the heater is needed.

Also from the videos he took today i noticed there wasn't any windshield washer prayers and the srs light is on.

He said he removed all the sprayer parts front and back. And there was nothing to attach the airbag to when he took the aftermarket wheel off and put the stock one back on.

I know there is a white ring or something that is usually there for the airbag to plug into. I removed this as well when I put my sparco wheel in my old car.

Any ideas how much im looking at to put heat back in this thing?

SlowWhite · 05-22-2014

Also how is the non water cooled turbos situation going to effect me.
if I ever upgraded turbos I was considering the pte 6266 or there 6766 turbos with bb.

One just came up on tuners today bnib for $700 if I didn't need all this extra money now I'd be tempted to buy it

dsmghost · 05-22-2014

You can get a heater core, an unmodified water pipe and t-stat housing for less than $20 each. And you can find them very easily it's no big deal.

**JET** · 05-22-2014

Yeah, no way you need a donor car for those minor things. The idle looks pretty rich, I saw it getting down to 12 or so, then it would miss.

SlowWhite · 05-22-2014

Thanks for the better news. I figured if I will do the dash swap at the same time.

How hard is it to install all that stuff? About how many hrs in labor?

I have never removed a dash or done any work other then replacing an each and clutch stuff before.

SlowWhite · 05-22-2014

Replace Ecu ( Damon phone) and clutch work under the dash

**Kracka** · 05-23-2014

My honest opinion: Run away. If the owner is "forgetting" things, doesn't know specifics, etc. who knows what else he's leaving out for you to discover down the road.

This sounds to me like someones half-assed hacked up "project" car. Buy a nice clean example, yes, they're out there, and start fresh (DSM or Evo). Get the maintenance up to date THEN mod it how you want it modded.

tehehodi · 05-23-2014

Or buy a c7.

**Kracka** · 05-23-2014

Here are three clean stock examples, all manual tranmission, all under 100k miles, all under $9k:

black 1997 GSX: http://tinyurl.com/nwgjrpk
red 1999 GST: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-E...US_Cars_Trucks
maroon 1997 GST Sypder: http://tinyurl.com/ohcdgnp

I found these three doing a quick 5 minutes of searching on only Autotrader and eBay. I'm sure far more of various colors can be found if you put more time into it.

**goodhart** · 05-23-2014

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Originally Posted by dsmghost

You can get a heater core, an unmodified water pipe and t-stat housing for less than $20 each. And you can find them very easily it's no big deal.

this. no way you would need a donor. But it does seem like there is a lot of little things that are adding up. Might listen to Kracka on this one.

SlowWhite · 05-23-2014

Not looking for stock, car has to pretty much be a pre assembled car. Might need minor things but that's it.

Three kids and a 7 day a week job working evenings with only 1 day off every other week which I always choose to spend with my kids. Doesnt leave much time to mod a car and the point of this car is to stop paying the rediculous labor costs down here that people charge to work on cars.

Flights paid for so im at least going to fly out and take a look at it. And will be negotiating the price down.
Accordingly.

I found the parts already to put the heat back in. As well as the wiper system.
all cheap like you guys mentioned it just a matter or time to install it as per mentioned above time is limited.

**Kracka** · 05-23-2014

...also leaves you no time to fix someone else's wreck.

Just stating my opinion and playing a little bit of the Devil's advocate. I obviously wish you the best and hope it all works out!

A//// Guy · 05-23-2014

Yep dont understand why youd want that mess, if you dont even have time to tinker with it. Its a dsm, it will break.

Fejery4491 · 05-23-2014

I seems like you already have your mind made up about the car. I encourage you to take a step back and mentally prepare yourself to walk away if need be. Its easy to get tunnel vision on a car. It's even easier when its a car that really can toss you back into the seat. I've bought 2 cars while in this "tunnel vision" mode (both dsms). I got fucked both times .Krackas made some good points, listen to him. I hope you get there and the cars amazing, but prepare yourself to cut your losses and go home car-less.

**Kracka** · 05-23-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fejery4491

I encourage you to take a step back and mentally prepare yourself to walk away if need be.

Perfect advice.

SlowWhite · 05-23-2014

I do understand all sides. if i get there and decide the car isnt worth the money then I have no problems walking away.

As far as breaking goes... well one thing i've learned there is no such thing as a reliable car.
And cars break more so based on how you treat them has been my experience. The rest just is wear and tear. I just know how to work on dsm's more then others cars and they are cheaper to fix. If I get there and this isnt the one then so be it.

Search will go on if need be.

carltalon · 05-23-2014

I agree That it does sound bad that the owner is forgetting things' and to be prepaired to walk away. I drove to Chicago to buy my 2G. It was suposed to be "rust free" and was owned buy a pretty well known reputable guy on the dsmlink forums. IF it was a local car I would have walked away. But since we already made the trip I brought it home. I have had to redo alot of wireing and will be fixing strut tower rust while my engine is out. Goog luck I hope everthing works out for you but I think you should prepare for the worst.

SlowWhite · 05-23-2014

Ya im not set on the car, im just not ruling it out yet is all. Flights paid for so im at least going to see it.

Worste case the car isnt worth the money. Or what not I get a flight out and while im waiting. There is a yt? Supra for sale I've been wanting to see that in wpb.

SlowWhite · 05-23-2014

Amd I hear ya on the no rust thing.

Was going to look at an eclipse in atlanta ga.
1997 gsx charcoal color but plastidipped black. Built 2.4, 280cams,
full v3 with sd, t4 manifold, Garrett 4088r turbo, sheep stage 3,
Vrsf, tial bov, tial 44wg, etc. - price was $7000 called me the other day said he'd take $5500

When I asked him about rust he said rust free. Sent me pictures there was rust all over the passenger side strut tower. When I asked him about ot he said its only surface rust.

SlowWhite · 05-23-2014

Talked with the owner tonight said he'd cover the cost of the parts. And my gas to go get them in nc.

Comes off the price of the car at time of purchase