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BKs50trimGST · 05-31-2005

one more thing from yahoogroups - from shindley/raptor

Shindley post:
The RRE feedline on this car is fine. It has no kinks. It is not the
cause of the turbo's demise. The turbo may have had a piece of foam
plastic stuffed inside the oil supply hole, I don't know. Nothing was
apprent when I installed it. Shaft play was normal and the shaft
rotated freely. It's just that ont he forst drive down the road the
car began emitting a lot of smoke, which got worse as the miles went by.

I intalled a big 16G last year that did the same thing. Brand new out
of the box and it pumped oil directly into the intake and exhaust.

The owner of this 50-trim got it through Elite. Elite saw to it that
the turbo was drop-shipped to my door (thank you, Mo!). Now they are
helping the owner get warranty service on the turbo. Elite is helping
the guy big time in his hour of need. It's nice of them.

The owner told me that Elite has seen a couple of turbos do the same
thing after they installed them. If you so enough of these installs
you will see an occassional failure. This is the second one I have
seen in a few years. In the "other failure", repalcing the turbo
fixed the problem. The oil feedline (an RRE feedline, too) remained.

Basically, turbos can fail out of the box. It's not a common thing,
but it does happen. No biggie.

Raptor/Mike at QPR post:
I will throw my .02 into this as maybe it will make sense. The effect
of the being burnt does nothing, the lack of that oil to the engine
since it is now making its way out the exhaust is the problem. Oil
starvation will cause bearings to spin. I have a nice crispy 7 bolt
rod on the wall from a very similar situation a couple years ago.
Someone failed a turbo install, the oil didn't go back to the motor
and in about 30 miles, a bearing spun from starvation. We got to
assess the damage and fix it. The other thing that should be said is
that knock and detonation can cause extreme engine damage, however,
they will not cause a spun bearing directly. I don't believe in tuning
on the street without decent logging capabilities, but I don't believe
that was the problem in this case. This isn't to take anyones side,
just my opinion for what it's worth.

05-31-2005	#4
BKs50trimGST Post whore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: minnetonka Posts: 246	Re: This is what my rebuilt 6-bolt consists of one more thing from yahoogroups - from shindley/raptor Shindley post: The RRE feedline on this car is fine. It has no kinks. It is not the cause of the turbo's demise. The turbo may have had a piece of foam plastic stuffed inside the oil supply hole, I don't know. Nothing was apprent when I installed it. Shaft play was normal and the shaft rotated freely. It's just that ont he forst drive down the road the car began emitting a lot of smoke, which got worse as the miles went by. I intalled a big 16G last year that did the same thing. Brand new out of the box and it pumped oil directly into the intake and exhaust. The owner of this 50-trim got it through Elite. Elite saw to it that the turbo was drop-shipped to my door (thank you, Mo!). Now they are helping the owner get warranty service on the turbo. Elite is helping the guy big time in his hour of need. It's nice of them. The owner told me that Elite has seen a couple of turbos do the same thing after they installed them. If you so enough of these installs you will see an occassional failure. This is the second one I have seen in a few years. In the "other failure", repalcing the turbo fixed the problem. The oil feedline (an RRE feedline, too) remained. Basically, turbos can fail out of the box. It's not a common thing, but it does happen. No biggie. Raptor/Mike at QPR post: I will throw my .02 into this as maybe it will make sense. The effect of the being burnt does nothing, the lack of that oil to the engine since it is now making its way out the exhaust is the problem. Oil starvation will cause bearings to spin. I have a nice crispy 7 bolt rod on the wall from a very similar situation a couple years ago. Someone failed a turbo install, the oil didn't go back to the motor and in about 30 miles, a bearing spun from starvation. We got to assess the damage and fix it. The other thing that should be said is that knock and detonation can cause extreme engine damage, however, they will not cause a spun bearing directly. I don't believe in tuning on the street without decent logging capabilities, but I don't believe that was the problem in this case. This isn't to take anyones side, just my opinion for what it's worth.