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Originally Posted by JustROLLIN
When you say "most" remember the fact that DSMs are not "most" cars. I was unaware that DSMs will not push that ragged edge, but I can assure you that "most" cars do in fact run like this. Granted DSMs are a different breed seeing as they are turbo-charged. But, cars equipped with knock sensors do in fact push the limit in the name of gas mileage.
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Some newer cars and motorcycles may do this. But the 1990-2000 Hondas, Supras, 240sx, 300zx, etc with knock sensors only use it to retard timing from their base timing maps.