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Originally Posted by ecoli
That is not true. Most knock sensor equipped cars do not tune themselves based off of knock. DSMs run off of hardcoded timing tables, it will retard timing when it sees knock, but it will not run more timing than what is in the tables on its own.
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When you say "most" remember the fact that DSMs are not "most" cars. I was unaware that DSMs will not push that ragged edge, but I can assure you that "most" cars do in fact run like this. Granted DSMs are a different breed seeing as they are turbo-charged. But, cars equipped with knock sensors do in fact push the limit in the name of gas mileage.