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Originally Posted by jeremy1375
Ok. In theory your solution sounds good. How would it work in practice? Let's say we take your approach. According to the video, the financial problems arose when the father went to jail.
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OK, so whose fault is it he went to jail? A responsible father wouldn't risk not being there for his children. In fact, a responsible mother and father would not make 15 kids they couldn't easily support.
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Should government proactively question all parents when they reach a certain number of kids on their ability to pay if circumstances change? How many kids would that be?
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Proactively, no. In cases like this, yes. In her case, I'd say at least 14 too many. If the circumstances are worse, I'd say all 15.
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If the kids are separated from their family and adopted out, what does data say about the kids likeliness of improving outcomes? What's it going to cost to jail the mother when she loses her shit after having all her kids taken away?
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You really believe that these children have it better now than if they were taken into a more stable environment? If you believe "it's all about the children", then obviously you can see how leaving them in a situation like that does NOTHING to improve their outlook or their future.
But it does create more Democratic voters, that's for sure.
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Do we do the same thing to a middle class white family that falls on hard times and needs government assistance if they have X kids and the dad went to jail or became unable to work?
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Yes we do. Do you think that only black families lose their children because they can't take care of them? If you do, you'd be wrong.
Foster care, foster homes, child protective services, etc. are there for a reason, to protect the child above all else. And it knows no color.
In fact, in most cases, try being white and getting half of what families like hers will get subsidized with.
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What would those specific criteria be to determine the government can take a person's children away permanently?
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Seems obvious to me, but lets see,...
Can you provide food for them and how?
Can you provide clothing for them and how?
Can you provide shelter for them and where?
Are they getting taken to school for their education?
Are they safe where they are (overcrowded living conditions, home environment, etc.)?
How is their hygiene?
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How much will the bureaucracy cost to implement, track, and enforce this regulation?
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How much will it cost to be her "babies daddy" x 15?
And then those 15 babies "babies daddies" x how ever many they make?