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Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Ok, let's call this thing here the 8 level of a 1st world country. An alternate version of the initial post.

1) Healthcare - Universal health care
And how many countries is it bankrupting? Can't have your cake and eat it too. There's no free lunch.
2) Poverty - Unlike 3rd world countries, the majority of people do not live in poverty
I agree. But why haven't those countries followed our lead and followed the model the USA has set for the rest of the world? All I see is the USA being brought down instead of the rest of the world being brought up.
3) Debt - A central bank exists where all money is created from an equal amount of debt
This is a financial trap for any country. Having money that is not backed by something real (i.e. gold), it's nothing but play money. Just like it is here since Nixon took us off the gold standard.
4) Gun Control - All first world countries have some level of gun control
We have gun control here. How far should it go before it overly burdens law abiding citizens?
5) Welfare - There is a safety net system in place to help those who are struggling.
We already have that, but it's turning into a life style and a career choice. And it's becoming unsustainable.
6) Education - The highest levels of education exist here.
Private/elitist class higher education maybe, across the board, no.
7) Religion - No religions should be given priority
Agreed, as long as a religion doesn't promote harm to another individual, I don't care either way.
8) Class Warfare - As has always existed in history class warfare exists. Economists are working on the best way to handle this.
Economist are failing. Legislators and elitist are the problem. The reality of it is that instead of bringing up the poor we're bringing down the middle class. Don't believe me? Look at current IRS income levels of the top 1%, 2%, 5%, 10%, 20%, 50%, etc. Notice it's not as big a swing as you might think. And with inflation it only makes it worse as your dollar buys you less.
See attachments from http://www.census.gov/content/dam/Ce...mo/p60-249.pdf starting on page 30 . Also notice it doesn't include the top 1-2%.
You can't legislate and regulate individual drive and intellegence. Those with the will to suceed, do. The rest will just get by.


I just wrote this now. Do you see my point yet?

Sorry, I've been out of pocket, but wanted to continue our converation. See above.