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The problem with the statements above on regulating welfare etc, is that no matter what obama or the next president does, it will immediately be labeled socialism. If a conservative does it, the liberals will throw all of the past socialism remarks in their faces, if the liberal does it, then the conservatives will have a field day saying that capitalism is dead, and socialism lives, nanny state, big brother watching etc.
It def wont happen this year as it is an election year.
Pete, Also working in the healthcare industry i have noticed that our company welcomes it, our legal person is a liberal, but I'm not sure about the rest. But he has spoken out about the reform and is really for it. But like you said, it is a matter of perspective.
I like to think of this as a step towards the greater good. Of course i am a liberal as everyone and their mother knows, but i guess i like to think that everyone deserves to be healthy. and now that healthcare reform is done, (although we can still make changes and improve the new system) i think as humans, brothers, sisters, friends, we need to get pissed at people that are abusing the system, and speak out. But not in the current form, where we group a large amount of people into a bucket and yell at them, but when you witness something like this or something that isnt adding up with someone you actually know, call them out, and say what the fuck are you doing with your life. Call it human reform.